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Wednesday, Jan. 7

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SCY, solo:

The main set was stolen from Chris the "Uber Machine" Stevenson again. Except I cheated and did the first fast set at only medium to medium fast pace. Still, it hurt. Though I'm not quite as traumatized as that last 20 x 100 set.

Warm up:

400 swim
300 kick
200 drill

Fast Sets:

#1 Medium to Medium Fast Pace

Didn't pay attention to my times on these really, as I still felt like I was warming up.

150 back
50 easy, 3:30 interval for the entire 200
100 backstroke kick
50 easy, 3:15 interval for the entire 150
150 back
50 easy, 3:30 interval for entire 200
100 backstroke kick
50 easy, 3:15 interval for entire 150

#2 Fast

Didn't pay attention to the intervals as much. Just gave myself adequate recovery time, not a ton. My shoulder was twingy after the first set, so I used fins, which I like for speedwork anyway. (Sorry, Ande, we're different that way. )

100 back fast (:59)
50 easy
50 backstroke kick fast (26.5ish) (really more SDK-ing than backstroke kick)
50 easy
100 IM fast (1:01)
50 easy
50 flutter kick w/ board fast (27)
50 easy

#3 Fast:

Had about 30 sec rest after the easy swim. Had to do a 75 instead of a 25 easy after the fast 25s to see the pace clock for the start of the next fast swim. Couldn't see my times on the 25s.

50 fly fast (27)
50 easy
25 dolphin kick fast
75 easy
50 back fast (27)
50 easy
25 flutter kick fast
75 easy

100 EZ

Mellow Aerobic Set:

16 x 50 @ :50
alternate backstroke and backstroke kick
went 33 on all of them

200 C/D

Total: 3600

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Other thoughts:

1. Weights

Still feeling broken down from weights. They just make practice much less enjoyable. I think I had that same thought when I started lifting heavier after Austin. Feeling it again. I do think that weights are the biggest reason for my improvement since Austin. I just wish I didn't dislike them so much. Getting a bit weary of them and would like to take a couple months off. Just need to decide when the timing would be right. Could do it after Zones, but that might effect Indy times. Or I could wait until after Indy. Not sure. Just sure I need a break.

2. Recovery

Still having trouble recovering. I've been tired all week since my hell week. Could be just the lack of sleep, as I'm getting up early again to get the kids to school and having trouble going to sleep earlier. Had a Luna Shake today after practice. (Thanks Julie!) Maybe that will help. I've had problem with this before, and started a thread many months ago called "Recovery Please." I'm also tempted to try LBJ's suggestion of Devil's Claw. Anyone use that?

3. Appeal:

As I mentioned on the "It is Here" thread, my appeal was denied as expected. The ground was Rule 102.13.1, which precludes a change in the order of events. They did not address my Rule 202.2 argument at all. Little disappointing, since that was the basis of my appeal. But that's what happens sometimes. In any event, I've definitely moved on. I'm happy enough that the IGLA times count for FINA purposes. And, as a couple encouraging forumites (including Skip have mentioned), if I hadn't swum the time trial, I wouldn't have known what I was capable of since the 29.99 was a surprise. Gives me some added confidence that my training etc. is on track.

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  1. Chris Stevenson's Avatar
    Good job, though maybe you should have done the "mellow aerobic set" before the harder set? Just a thought.

    Your body will eventually adapt to the weights, it will just take time. And when you stop you'll feel that much better.

    Sorry for the news about your appeal, though I'm glad you are taking it well -- looking forward to seeing even faster times in the future.
  2. The Fortress's Avatar
    I thought about doing it first. If I had, I could have worked that first set more. But then the sprinters always suggest sprinting first .... I haven't had the best luck with that. It seems to take awhile for me to shift into high gear. This is also why I'd rather not have my best event first at a meet.

    I dunno about the weights. I wish I had the more typical guy attachment to them.

    On the recovery point, I was just in Whole Foods and found the product LBJ recommended. It's a "Function" sport drink. The recovery drink is called Shock Sports.
  3. Iwannafly's Avatar
    Holy crap, between you and Chris, I realize how truly slow I am. :-)
    I had a bad car week this past weekend and this week, so my 5 workouts a week have dwindled to just Master's practices three times per week. But hopefully Saturday morning will get me back in the swing of things!
    I still like the picture of Chris' dog!
  4. The Fortress's Avatar
    TJ,

    You did note that I had fins on for the timed swims. Hadn't done my RC exercises in 5 days and that always has bad consequences ... You'll get there. You're still a newbie.

    I'm personally still wondering how my kicking is as fast as my swimming.

    Chris's dog does have a very thoughtful look on his face as if he's puzzling something out or skeptical about something.
  5. jim thornton's Avatar
    Chris's dog is thinking: I can smell one part per billion molecules, and I think that part is food. Now where is it, and what do I have to do to get it?
  6. jaegermeister's Avatar
    Regarding recovery and weights: in a totally subjective fashion, I have also observed that it is taking me longer to recover from harder sets/workouts, though the level of effort I'm expending is not as consistent as yours. Particularly with weights, if I do several sets where I'm pushing it, I'm pretty much toast for a couple of days. Is this the inevitable maturity factor? My day job has become a strain.

    On the upside, I think its totally cool to push ourselves to the limit. As long as we're not getting injured, there has to be a substantial training benefit. And your recent times-even if not officially recognized- show that you're getting very fast!

    I'm not one to look to a specific supplement or micro-nutrient as magic. For my two cents, food is healthier than supplements (see my Michael Pollan influence). I am going to be posting about chocolate in the near future. My current thoughts about recovery is that we need sufficient carbs on the caloric side, as well as sufficient rest to avoid burnout and injury. How much rest is required is obviously up to each of us to figure out.

    Kicking fast: I can only sense you have awesome core strength.

    I don't have a cute avatar, but I am sure enjoying the puppy faces as well.
  7. The Fortress's Avatar
    Thanks, Tom. Yes, most docs I know are not huge fans of supplements. Perhaps I just need to be more careful about having something with protein after working out. And there's a fine line between training hard and over-training. I'm sure some of our recovery issues have to do with age.
  8. Chris Stevenson's Avatar
    Others will disagree, but I've never found recovery drinks to work for me. The only thing I will use is something like gatorade on long (40 miles and longer) bike rides, instead of water. But that is during the ride, not after. Occasionally I'll have a chocolate milk after a long swim workout. And since chocolate milk is supposed to be good, I figure that chocolate ice cream is even better for post-workout recovery.

    As far as the dog goes, I'm sure he is just wondering if he can get away with biting the camera lens.
    Updated January 8th, 2009 at 09:24 AM by Chris Stevenson
  9. The Fortress's Avatar
    Ah, the proven benefits of chocolate protein! Yeah, I can't say I've noticed much benefit from recovery drinks either. But I guess, to the extent they have protein in them, they must help some for muscle recovery.
  10. aztimm's Avatar
    The best thing that works for me for recovery after workouts (except running) is this locally-produced milk from Shamrock Farms, "Rockin' Refuel." Basically a chocolate milk drink (I had been getting those anyway) with some extra whey protein added, and it is only $1, less if you find it on sale. After running, my stomach gets topsy-turvy and milk just won't work; water, gatorade, and Balance bars are ok.

    I've started to re-adjust to weights after my what 2-week stunt at the gym so far. The soreness is going down, although I still get some when I do something different or add weight, but not that all-over feeling. Now I just feel very tired, just made myself a double-strength tea, poured over ice...

    What's the, "typical guy attachment," with weights? If you've seen some of the women I've seen squatting/benching/etc at my gym...well I sure don't want to piss them off I've more noticed a rift between free weight users and machine users, while I tend to do some of both.
  11. The Fortress's Avatar
    I'll check out the choco milk drink, Tim.

    I had added some different weights and core work, so that could have contributed to the soreness.

    Yes, there are some studly chicks at my gym too. Don't mean to fall into cliched stereotypes ... just seems like the guys I know love weights. I'll love them more if I swim fast in Feb. I also do both free weights and machines.
  12. ande's Avatar
    sorry your appeal was denied
    you're training well
    get strong
    swim fast