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    hey al

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    I swam the 50 beside you at long beach
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    Maybe in another life.

    My back is soooo bad I can hardly do slow undulating SDK off my turns without throwing out my back. Short bursts really hurt. Usually I am forced to drag my legs because using them causes shooting pains of fire... then they go numb if I keep it up and I can't use them at all.

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    As part of our, "Freaking Fast Friday," set today, we did sets of 50's SCY fast (just from a push). I experimented and did some my 'usual' with the regular flutter kicks off the side, and some with 2-3 dolphin kicks. It will take some time to get comfortable with this, but I went about 1-2 seconds faster with the dolphin kicks.

    I think the hardest thing for me is the transition from the dolphin swaying/undulating to a fairly flat free. Anyone have tips on what works for them?

    I'm close to (finally) breaking a minute on a 100 SCY free, and I'll take anything that would make it more doable. I know, I'm nowhere near any records, but it would be a personal milestone for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aztimm View Post
    As part of our, "Freaking Fast Friday," set today, we did sets of 50's SCY fast (just from a push). I experimented and did some my 'usual' with the regular flutter kicks off the side, and some with 2-3 dolphin kicks. It will take some time to get comfortable with this, but I went about 1-2 seconds faster with the dolphin kicks.

    I think the hardest thing for me is the transition from the dolphin swaying/undulating to a fairly flat free. Anyone have tips on what works for them?

    I'm close to (finally) breaking a minute on a 100 SCY free, and I'll take anything that would make it more doable. I know, I'm nowhere near any records, but it would be a personal milestone for me.
    To get comfortable with the breakout, just keep at it. Once 3 dolphin kicks off every wall feels normal, start stretching to 4. Once 4 feels normal, start on 5, etc. In crawlstroke, I'm pretty solid at 6 and in the early stages of 7. It's been about 2 years since I was doing 3 kicks off each wall, to give you an idea of how long this takes. Good luck breaking 1:00!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aztimm View Post
    I think the hardest thing for me is the transition from the dolphin swaying/undulating to a fairly flat free. Anyone have tips on what works for them?
    Okay, so you are in the streamline position: head down, neck, spine and legs in alignment, arms stretched out in front, right palm over left. Almost immediately you have taken that last whip of the hips, start to pull with your breakout arm (which, in my case, is my left - and why it is under my right arm in the streamline position). Now bring in a strong flutter kick. And don't breathe until at least the third stroke - longer if possible.

    Syd

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    Re: Help! My SDK is Horrible!

    here's a slow motion vid of crocker's sdk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cYpDqjpfII

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    Excellent underwater SDK footage from
    Alain Bernard's 47.60 WR 100 free
    he took 4 SDKs off the turn which allowed him to go deeper and get under the wave
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSXlbiY37XU

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    Also,

    Look here at the 50.....but look at the guy who dives the deepest and does the most SDK's. He comes up with a clear lead. Didn't last long, but it shows the speed of a fast SDK.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYLQqkWcdE0

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    Could it be the camera angle???
    Quote Originally Posted by rtodd View Post
    Also,

    Look here at the 50.....but look at the guy who dives the deepest and does the most SDK's. He comes up with a clear lead. Didn't last long, but it shows the speed of a fast SDK.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYLQqkWcdE0
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    maybe, but I don't think so. The majority use about two SDK's and flutter to the surface, but one guy really cranks the SDK's and I'm pretty sure he is the one who surfaces about an elbow length out on everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rtodd View Post
    Also,

    Look here at the 50.....but look at the guy who dives the deepest and does the most SDK's. He comes up with a clear lead. Didn't last long, but it shows the speed of a fast SDK.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYLQqkWcdE0

    The synchronization of sound and image on youtube is horrible.
    I have watched that Video more than 50 times. Each and every time, they start their dives at "Take your marks". I have a fast cable Internet connection. I have even dowanloaded it on Real Player and playback shows the same time shift.
    ..... Where, Oh, where did I last see my swimming suit? Oh well!

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    Noticed the sound problem, but I still think the guy that went deep with SDK's broke out ahead......of course he did loose so, maybe in practicing SDK's, he neglected something else!!

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    Re: Help! My SDK is Horrible!

    anyone working on their SDK

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    Maybe in my next training cycle starting in a week or two. Currently I don't use it with anything other than fly and back, and can only manage a couple kicks before surfacing. I seem to prefer a couple slow and strong kicks, sort of like the one legal kick on breaststroke, which seems to give more thrust but that probably also creates more drag.

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    I have a pretty decent SDK and, after much deliberation -- it is not in my self-interest to help potential competition, after all -- I have decided to share my secret:

    http://ellen.warnerbros.com/2008/01/hawaii_chair.php

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    that's hilarious

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    Re: Help! My SDK is Horrible!

    Wow, I nearly spotted on that one.

    Paul

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    Re: Help! My SDK is Horrible!

    This is truly a breakthru for crosstraining!

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    Um, sorry folks, but that's just a lap-dancing training tool. Recruits must do a certain number of hours on that machine before flying solo.
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