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    what percentage of active swimmers are members of USMS?

    I have thought about joining, but can`t come up with a good reason why I should. My schedule conflicts with every team in my area and I really don`t have a strong desire to compete anyway. Already a member of the NRA and the discounts trump anything USMS can offer. Not a whole lot of equipment needed for swimming, so store discounts don`t really seem all that important. I wonder what percentage of active swimmers are members of the USMS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chattcatdaddy View Post
    I wonder what percentage of active swimmers are members of the USMS?
    Funny you should ask.

    In Arizona, we have 819 registered members as of two weeks ago. When I did a survey of all the teams (35) throughout the state, we came up with 1350 swimmers. That means about 55% of the swimmers in our state are actually registered with USMS.

    I suspect that is true elsewhere.

    Lots of comments on this topic but will withold them for now.
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    Re: what percentage of active swimmers are members of USMS?

    Quote Originally Posted by chattcatdaddy View Post
    I have thought about joining, but can`t come up with a good reason why I should. My schedule conflicts with every team in my area and I really don`t have a strong desire to compete anyway. Already a member of the NRA and the discounts trump anything USMS can offer. Not a whole lot of equipment needed for swimming, so store discounts don`t really seem all that important. I wonder what percentage of active swimmers are members of the USMS?
    You're here, using the forum. It costs money, as noted by Gull in the existential angst thread in which several, if not many, wring their collective hands and gnash their collective teeth about Ande's blog thread being -- gasp -- moved to the blog section:

    No one's opinion has been excluded, but I was under the impression that our dues support this forum (among other services). The 2008 budget for USMS lists $42,015 for "web operations."
    I joined before I needed to because I was using the resources here, including the forum and workout section, and felt a need to give back. Sort of the public broadcasting model.
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    Re: what percentage of active swimmers are members of USMS?

    I agree. I think if you're using the resources on this forum and on the site, you should join to help support it. When I joined my team, the coaches told me not to worry about paying for the USMS membership right away, but I was using this forum and the resources on the site like crazy; I almost felt like I was cheating the system.

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    Re: what percentage of active swimmers are members of USMS?

    Our membership varies between 800 and 1,000 -- we have maybe about 12 people competing in USMS meets. Maybe there are about 100 signed up for USMS membership, but only because some of the Ocean swims require it - they make little use of anything USMS offers otherwise.

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    Re: what percentage of active swimmers are members of USMS?

    Our team requires all members to join USMS.

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    Re: what percentage of active swimmers are members of USMS?

    I am. I will be doing my first meet in nearly 2 years at the end of the month...excited too

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    Re: what percentage of active swimmers are members of USMS?

    And I will have the video camera ready

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwolf66 View Post
    And I will have the video camera ready
    Yea, so we can have a "what not do to at a masters meet, so you don't embarasse yourself in front of new and old friends" clinic

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewookiee View Post
    Yea, so we can have a "what not do to at a masters meet, so you don't embarasse yourself in front of new and old friends" clinic
    I will warn you that the video camera has been the kiss of death at Colonies meets for a few forumites. The presence of said camera tends to cause swimmers to miss the start of their heats and/or fail to finish their races.
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    Re: what percentage of active swimmers are members of USMS?

    Hmm, I did fail to take the 'Statue of Liberty' start and the 150 Backstroke into consideration.

    Must come up with new plan.

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    Re: what percentage of active swimmers are members of USMS?

    I am planning on coming in friday night(depending on what type of flight I find) Anyone know of a good place to swim saturday morning, for a good long loosen up?

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    Re: what percentage of active swimmers are members of USMS?

    Quote Originally Posted by thewookiee View Post
    I am planning on coming in friday night(depending on what type of flight I find) Anyone know of a good place to swim saturday morning, for a good long loosen up?
    Where are you staying, John?

    I've been a member of USMS almost since the moment I stepped back in the pool.

    The "Statue of Liberty" start is one of the funniest things I've seen at a meet. lol

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    Re: what percentage of active swimmers are members of USMS?

    Quote Originally Posted by thewookiee View Post
    I am. I will be doing my first meet in nearly 2 years at the end of the month...excited too
    Are you heading up here for the Sprint meet?

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    Re: what percentage of active swimmers are members of USMS?

    Quote Originally Posted by swimshark View Post
    Are you heading up here for the Sprint meet?

    Yup.

    Fort, don't know yet. I may fly into BWI(thanks southwest rapid rewards) and drive down on friday or fly in saturday afternoon.

    Probably stay close to the pool.

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    Re: what percentage of active swimmers are members of USMS?

    What is the "Statue of Liberty" start?

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    Re: what percentage of active swimmers are members of USMS?

    Quote Originally Posted by mjgold View Post
    Our team requires all members to join USMS.
    My team used to have the same requirements. About 2 or 3 years ago the team started doing its own insurance, and dropped the USMS requirement.

    For me personally, the $38/year isn't a huge expense, so I continue to do it. I travel a fair amount, and having the USMS card helps with getting into other workouts. I do look at these forums, and elsewhere on the USMS site, for all kinds of info. And if I ever do a meet again, I'll be ready in that regard.

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    Re: what percentage of active swimmers are members of USMS?

    Quote Originally Posted by aztimm View Post
    My team used to have the same requirements. About 2 or 3 years ago the team started doing its own insurance, and dropped the USMS requirement.
    Circa 1999, Sun Devil Masters has between 130-160 swimmers, all of whom had to be registered with USMS. Focus of team was competition, we had good turnout at meets.

    Circa 2005, team no longer requires members to have USMS membership. Team now has over 350 swimmers, less than 100 registered with USMS. Meet attendance is tepid at best.

    If a team can purchase private insurance and the focus is no longer on competition, what is the value in USMS membership? Look at SDM, DAMM, and other teams that have grown considerably over the past few years as example of this trend. I suspect this will continue until we can make membership compelling for non-competitive swimmers. If/when this happens, our membership will grow considerably.


    Note: The forth largest masters team in AZ has 84 members, of which only 4-5 are registered. They are larger than Northern Arizona Masters...
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    Re: what percentage of active swimmers are members of USMS?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Fortress View Post
    Where are you staying, John?

    I've been a member of USMS almost since the moment I stepped back in the pool.

    The "Statue of Liberty" start is one of the funniest things I've seen at a meet. lol
    Thank you for not laughing at the 150 backstroke.
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    Re: what percentage of active swimmers are members of USMS?

    Nobody has answered my question yet. What is this Statue of Liberty start?

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