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    20.30 used to be a good yards time

    I thought that the new records would not surprise me any more - but 20.30 in a 50 - scm - by Schoeman --- can we go under 20 ?

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    Re: 20.30 used to be a good yards time

    Cielo could do it if he rested for SCM in a rubber suit. But the ban's a-loomin'.

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    Re: 20.30 used to be a good yards time

    Do you think a sub 20 scm would convert to a sub 18 scy?

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    Re: 20.30 used to be a good yards time

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Savage View Post
    Do you think a sub 20 scm would convert to a sub 18 scy?
    According to http://www.swimpna.org/php/timeConversions.php, "00:19.99 for 50FR SCM converts to 0:17.91 SCY"

    It also says that Schoeman's 20.30 converts to 18.18, which would be a record in SCY.

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    Re: 20.30 used to be a good yards time

    Quote Originally Posted by ehoch View Post
    can we go under 20 ?
    I think there's two or three swimmers that if they set that goal are more than capable before the end of the year. What's this "we" stuff though?

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    Re: 20.30 used to be a good yards time

    Quote Originally Posted by ehoch View Post
    I thought that the new records would not surprise me any more - but 20.30 in a 50 - scm - by Schoeman --- can we go under 20 ?
    where did this swim come from? I don't really see Schoeman as being better one way or the other LCM v SCM and it's not like lit the pool on fire at worlds...

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    Re: 20.30 used to be a good yards time

    Quote Originally Posted by KeithM View Post
    What's this "we" stuff though?
    Land mammals.

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    Re: 20.30 used to be a good yards time

    What's this "we" stuff though?
    We = Rubbersized, Performance Enhancing, Killing the Sport CHEATERS

    I think the short-course times will be even more out of control -- more time under water !!!!!!

    25.43 in a 50 Breast ... 56.39 ... maybe a 55+ tomorrow ???

    I think the 2 minutes will go for the 200 Breast.

    Cielo and Bousquet should do a shootout in December

    start with 50 Long-course
    then do short-course meters
    then go yards

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    Re: 20.30 used to be a good yards time

    Quote Originally Posted by quicksilver View Post
    Land mammals.
    Interestingly Otters are the fastest swimmers among land mammals.

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    Re: 20.30 used to be a good yards time

    Not surprising. Roland has one of the fastest, if not the fastest starts in the world.

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    Re: 20.30 used to be a good yards time

    Quote Originally Posted by lefty View Post
    where did this swim come from? I don't really see Schoeman as being better one way or the other LCM v SCM and it's not like lit the pool on fire at worlds...

    Yes, not at all surprising. Schoeman has broken 10 world records in his swimming career and he has broken the 50 Free SCM no less than four times. In 2000 he broke the world record going 21:31, then he broke it twice in 2008 going 20:98 and 20:64 respectively. Now he has done it again going 20:30. He is well known for his dedication to training (particularly to his starts) that even his coaches find exhausting! He is the perfect example of a drop dead sprinter. He has always done better over the shorter distances and by his own admission only knows one speed (even for the 100 Free LCM) and that: as fast as he can. He narrowly missed gold in the 100m Free in Athens. He went out hell-for-leather and turned first at the 50m (in what, I think, at the time was the world record for the fastest 50 split) but couldn't hold on in the last 15m and got the silver after Van den Hoogenbrand.

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    Re: 20.30 used to be a good yards time

    .... and we have the 55.99 in 100 Breast

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    Re: 20.30 used to be a good yards time

    Quote Originally Posted by Syd View Post
    Yes, not at all surprising. Schoeman has broken 10 world records in his swimming career and he has broken the 50 Free SCM no less than four times. In 2000 he broke the world record going 21:31, then he broke it twice in 2008 going 20:98 and 20:64 respectively. Now he has done it again going 20:30. He is well known for his dedication to training (particularly to his starts) that even his coaches find exhausting! He is the perfect example of a drop dead sprinter. He has always done better over the shorter distances and by his own admission only knows one speed (even for the 100 Free LCM) and that: as fast as he can. He narrowly missed gold in the 100m Free in Athens. He went out hell-for-leather and turned first at the 50m (in what, I think, at the time was the world record for the fastest 50 split) but couldn't hold on in the last 15m and got the silver after Van den Hoogenbrand.
    I know all this. I also know that at World Champs he got smoked by 14 other swimmers. Look for his name in the finals. You won't see it there. Maybe what I should have said was Schoeman was off at World Champs...

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    Re: 20.30 used to be a good yards time

    Quote Originally Posted by lefty View Post
    I know all this. I also know that at World Champs he got smoked by 14 other swimmers. Look for his name in the finals. You won't see it there. Maybe what I should have said was Schoeman was off at World Champs...
    Yes, you're right, he was off at Worlds. He said so himself:

    Schoeman said the Fina World Championships in Rome had been "disappointing" for him.
    "I just didn't have it going for me in Italy," he said. "I am very happy to have broken the record in front of a South African crowd, as people at home have high expectations of me and I wanted to please them."
    It is the tenth world record of Schoeman's career and he said the World Cup in Durban in ten weeks' time was a big focus for him.
    Here is the full article.

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