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    good job. looks like the 65-69 AG fall off the cliff compared to the 60-64 AG, which are only a little slower than 55-59. must be medicare and SS
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    Quote Originally Posted by cantwait4bike View Post
    good job. looks like the 65-69 AG fall off the cliff compared to the 60-64 AG, which are only a little slower than 55-59. must be medicare and SS
    Sixty five laps around the sun takes a toll.

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    Re: Masters Motivational Times

    Quote Originally Posted by SaltySwimmer View Post
    Very cool! Thanks for sharing this!
    Same here. It was very interesting.

    Thanks!

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    I've wondered about this as well -- thanks so much for putting this together! Like others, I was surprised to see that I fared much better than I thought. Nice to see that (age-adjusted) I AM faster than my 16 year old (at least in freestyle)!

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    Looks like the AA times are basically the national qualifying times.

    One thing worth mentioning is that the national qualifying times have been steadily getting faster the past four years. For me it's been kinda like chasing the dangling bananna.

    Track has All American Standards, so it would be cool to have the same for swimming. Here's the track standards. They are fairly tough.
    http://www.nationalmastersnews.com/allamer/aa_tf_m.htm

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    Re: Masters Motivational Times

    Great idea. I used to pore over these lists as an age grouper!

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    Re: Masters Motivational Times

    I love this!
    Charts/standards like this motivate me. This is exactly what I've been looking for. Thanks for doing this!
    HTFU!

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    What a good job in putting these up for us. Thanx !

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    Thanks, I have been looking for something like this for a long time. Much appreciated from across the pond.

    Saw the SCY version, grabbed a calculator and then saw the SCM version.

    Nice work!!!

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    I'm impressed with this, nicely done. I think it is probably as close to acccurate as you can get with us old folks. I swim with a few top 10 guys and the are all AAAA plus, so, to me, your calculations and designations are very accurate.

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    Wow, this was quite encouraging to see where i fall in on the list. It seems everyone is in agreement on how accurate this is.

    Thank you for making these .pdf's.

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    This is fantastic. I'm getting back in the pool after 15 yrs and the 35-39 yr old times are exactly what I was looking for.

    There are some FAST people in this age group out there! I'm surprised the times don't come down more from 18-24. Guess thats a testament to a heck of a lot of hard work and dedication. I'll see where I am 6 months from now.

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    Re: Masters Motivational Times

    Thanks for the chart (forgot to include that in my first reply). I wonder if this could form the basis for more-or-less objective handicaps for gridges?

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    Excellent work!

    Looked at the USA-S lists for years with my kids so it's fun to have an equivalent for Masters.

    USMS really should just take this over and maintain it. They should create a Hy-tek file for use by Hy-tek's Team Manager and Meet Manager software so meet results could tag the times in result listings.
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    Re: Masters Motivational Times

    I agree, these are great to have! Helps to see sets of times that are relevant to a broad range of swimmers. National qualifying times are out of reach for now, but these tables provide a graduated set of goals. Between this and the masters rating calculator (mentioned on a recent thread, developed by Chris Stevenson) I feel like I've been handed some pretty useful tools for self-assessment. Thanks so much for your effort, Steve.

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    Re: Masters Motivational Times

    Quote Originally Posted by funkyfish View Post
    Also noticed that I fair better in scm than in scy, which I suspected, although I'm not sure why that is.
    That should be true for most people. SCY is a lot more popular than SCM. If some of the fast people don't race SCM, that slows down the Top 10 times, and your swims look better in comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rtodd View Post
    Looks like the AA times are basically the national qualifying times.
    That's no accident. Both are based on Top 10 + 15%.

    For 200s and longer, the NQTs are +10%, which corresponds to AAA times.

    The motivational times should be a hair faster than NQTs, because they're based on the 6th-10th times, while NQTs are based on the 10th place time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aquageek View Post
    I swim with a few top 10 guys and the are all AAAA plus
    They should be -- it's their times that the chart is based on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hofffam View Post
    USMS really should just take this over and maintain it. They should create a Hy-tek file for use by Hy-tek's Team Manager and Meet Manager software so meet results could tag the times in result listings.
    That would be very cool, to have times tagged automatically in meet results. Too bad I know nothing about Hy-tek.

    I'm not sure everyone would want their times "scored" in public, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red60 View Post
    Between this and the masters rating calculator (mentioned on a recent thread, developed by Chris Stevenson) I feel like I've been handed some pretty useful tools for self-assessment. Thanks so much for your effort, Steve.
    Very cool, thanks for the link.

    I think if I had known about that rating calculator earlier, that would have satisfied my need for an objective benchmark, and I wouldn't have bothered with these time standard charts.

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