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    The Breaststroke Lane

    The Breastroke Lane, This is a place for breastrokers Unite
    some call it EVIL STROKE,
    It's a weird stroke, Inspired from frogs
    lot's of resistance, takes strength & technique
    it helps to have strong legs & feet that turn out
    you get slower intervals & have a built in advantage in IMs
    figure out your order and make the sets
    you spend much of your time underwater, holding your breath while your lungs are about to burst.
    chat some between sets and on easy kicks

    talk to each other

    What did you do in practice today?


    [ame="http://www.usms.org/forums/showthread.php?t=16584"]the breastroke lane[/ame]


    [ame="http://www.usms.org/forums/showthread.php?t=16601"]The Middle Distance Lane[/ame]


    [ame="http://www.usms.org/forums/showthread.php?t=16587"]The Backstroke Lane[/ame]


    [ame="http://www.usms.org/forums/showthread.php?t=16588"]The Butterfly Lane[/ame]


    [ame="http://www.usms.org/forums/showthread.php?t=16618"]The SDK Lane[/ame]


    [ame="http://www.usms.org/forums/showthread.php?t=16591"]The Taper Lane[/ame]


    [ame="http://www.usms.org/forums/showthread.php?t=16586"]The Distance Lane[/ame]


    [ame="http://www.usms.org/forums/showthread.php?t=16589"]The IM Lane[/ame]


    [ame="http://www.usms.org/forums/showthread.php?t=16585"]The Sprint Free Lane[/ame]


    [ame="http://www.usms.org/forums/showthread.php?t=16619"]The Pool Deck[/ame]
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    Re: The Breaststroke Lane

    It's only called evil stroke by those who can't do it.My favorite BR quote was from a coach in an article on how to swim the 400 IM.Of the BR leg he said most should focus on tempo because"only the few,BLESSED BY GOD,are allowed to glide."(my capitalization)Are you one of the "blessed" who can do the kick right? Isn't it great?
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    Re: The Breaststroke Lane

    I concur with Allen. This a quote I had laying around on my computer.

    "Many years ago, I was very very fortunate to spend a little time with former world record holder,
    Olympic gold medal winning coach and outstanding breaststroke technician Terry Gathercole.
    One morning we were on deck at the Australian Institute of Sport watching some elite level breaststrokers
    when all of a sudden he said “Shhh – listen to that”. I said “what?”
    Again he said, “Listen to that”. Again I said “what – I can’t hear anything”. Terry smiled and replied, “That’s why
    breaststroke is the best stroke. It takes finesse. It’s a peaceful and gentle stroke. It takes real skill. It takes the best
    swimmers to swim it well. It is an art form”."
    "Think of your breaststroke as a jewel: You never hammer it, you only polish it."

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    Re: The Breaststroke Lane

    Quote Originally Posted by Allen Stark View Post
    Are you one of the "blessed" who can do the kick right? Isn't it great?
    Hey Allen, I've seen your posts all over the forums, including the threads I have started. I appreciate your support and pro-breaststroke spirit! And, of course, I like your avatar.

    Just for the heck of it, I decided to look you up in the "Swimmer Lookup" for Nationals and see where you are seeded for your breaststroke events. WOW!

    Then, I checked out your ranking for 50 breaststroke.

    Good luck at Nationals. I hope you WIN!

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    Breaststroke RULES

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElaineK View Post
    Hey Allen, I've seen your posts all over the forums, including the threads I have started. I appreciate your support and pro-breaststroke spirit! And, of course, I like your avatar.

    Just for the heck of it, I decided to look you up in the "Swimmer Lookup" for Nationals and see where you are seeded for your breaststroke events. WOW!

    Then, I checked out your ranking for 50 breaststroke.

    Good luck at Nationals. I hope you WIN!
    Thanks,I love breaststroke.Nationals should be fun,but "the Man" Bob Strand is the number one seed.It's great to swim with him though as you have to love swimming with the best.
    Good Luck to you at Nats,your are bound to get some PBs.
    Breaststroke Forever!!!!
    "To strive,to seek,to find,and not to yield" Tennyson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allen Stark View Post
    Thanks,I love breaststroke.Nationals should be fun,but "the Man" Bob Strand is the number one seed.It's great to swim with him though as you have to love swimming with the best.
    Good Luck to you at Nats,your are bound to get some PBs.
    Breaststroke Forever!!!!
    I saw Bob Strand up there as the top seed, but your times are close. You can BEAT him, so I'm hoping you do!

    Here's to the breaststroke!

    Thanks for your words of encouragement!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElaineK View Post
    I saw Bob Strand up there as the top seed, but your times are close. You can BEAT him, so I'm hoping you do!

    Here's to the breaststroke!

    Thanks for your words of encouragement!
    Thanks.It's going to be fun.
    Let me know what heat you are in so I can watch.
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    Re: The Breaststroke Lane

    Quote Originally Posted by Allen Stark View Post
    Breaststroke Forever!!!!
    I swam 2 breaststroke events this weekends and was way too deep on all my pullouts. How do I fix this? My push off angle must be all wrong ... ??

    I did PR my 50 breast, but literally had to float to the top on the first 25, which cause me to jerk my head up to get to the surface.

    I also got the most bogus DQ on my 100 evil. It makes me leery to swim it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fortress View Post
    I swam 2 breaststroke events this weekends and was way too deep on all my pullouts. How do I fix this? My push off angle must be all wrong ... ??

    I did PR my 50 breast, but literally had to float to the top on the first 25, which cause me to jerk my head up to get to the surface.

    I also got the most bogus DQ on my 100 evil. It makes me leery to swim it again.
    Proper depth just takes practice.You may be pushing off too deep or angling down on the pulldown.I'd have to see to be sure.What happened in the 100?
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    Re: The Breaststroke Lane

    Quote Originally Posted by The Fortress View Post
    I also got the most bogus DQ on my 100 evil. It makes me leery to swim it again.
    I saw that on the results, a real bummer. (I know the feeling, though... )

    Looks like you had a good meet, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fortress View Post
    I swam 2 breaststroke events this weekends and was way too deep on all my pullouts. How do I fix this? My push off angle must be all wrong ... ??

    I did PR my 50 breast, but literally had to float to the top on the first 25, which cause me to jerk my head up to get to the surface.

    I also got the most bogus DQ on my 100 evil. It makes me leery to swim it again.
    One thing I find is that most competition pools are deeper than my practice pool. So I am often a bit too deep racing since I calibrate my trajectory based at least partly on the bottom of the pool.

    You may also have a good trajectory, but with a racing suit on and the adrenaline of racing it simply carries you farther and deeper than you want.
    From the Rolling Stones "Mother's Little Helper" - "What a drag it is getting old....."

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    Re: The Breaststroke Lane

    Could be, to me backstroke is the evil stoke, I'm unable to see where I going but to others its their favorite stoke.

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    I just joined the forum ... sooo happy to see this thread. The breaststroke is by far my best stroke, I have a mediocre backstroke & front crawl, and no butterfly. I've always felt like a bit of a freak

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlmostEvan View Post
    I just joined the forum ... sooo happy to see this thread. The breaststroke is by far my best stroke, I have a mediocre backstroke & front crawl, and no butterfly. I've always felt like a bit of a freak
    To us, the ones who don't like BR are the freaks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allen Stark View Post
    To us, the ones who don't like BR are the freaks.
    You tell 'em, King Frog! By the way, I was thinking of you recently when I saw this at the Lindt Chocolate Museum in Cologne, Germany:

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinc3100 View Post
    Could be, to me backstroke is the evil stoke, I'm unable to see where I going but to others its their favorite stoke.
    Yes,backstroke is the only stroke that tries to drown me.
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    Re: The Breaststroke Lane

    I train open water with a Triathlon Club at a local lake with a half mile loop of buoys. Last week there was one woman doing breast stroke through at least one full circuit. I don't recall seeing her the 2nd loop but she looked strong enough to have done a mile.

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    Wes, those are impressive times, you didn't mention it but New Mexico U is at 5000 foot altitude. I have swum at that pool and you really have to pace yourself. Plus they had the highest starting blocks I have ever seen. Witnessed people start and end up 7-8 feet underwater. Not good for breaststroke. My younger brother won the WAC 200 breast a few years before you.
    It's not how fast you swim, it's how fast you slow down.

    For competition breaststroke information visit: http://www.breaststroke.info/

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    Re: The Breaststroke Lane

    I retired last year for the third time. I was going to write a Kindle book on teaching competition breaststroke, had about 75 pages done.

    But then I found GoSwim.TV, their drill online movies are better than any I have seen, with great commentary.

    Modern competition Breaststroke is really easy to teach, it's all about streamline.

    The only things I can add are the all out super fast forwards eggbeater on stomach or back. It is the muscles that pull the heels back up to the butt after each kick that gets tired, and this is the only drill that totally exhausts those muscles and produces faster kick speed.

    The other thing I recommend, that few use, is I believe you should use the deltoids for the breaststroke pull/scull. As the hands go forwards rotate the elbows up and hunch your deltoids as your palms are facing outwards. Pull like a butterfly very fast and you won't tire those poor biceps.
    It's not how fast you swim, it's how fast you slow down.

    For competition breaststroke information visit: http://www.breaststroke.info/

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