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    Swim MAC Elite - A Study In Failure At Trials?

    How does David Marsh get all these athletes to join his group, and then they get worse while training with him, while college boys and girls surpass them? How did he get appointed as womens coach for the US team?

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    Re: Swim MAC Elite - A Study In Failure At Trials?

    Please, tell us how you would have done better.

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    Re: Swim MAC Elite - A Study In Failure At Trials?

    Hmmm... this person has posted 10 times on the forum and 4 of them have been to trash Dave Marsh.

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    Re: Swim MAC Elite - A Study In Failure At Trials?

    Individuals can make such a difference in the trials. Each swimmer has his/her goals and drive to get there. A coach can only do so much. Phelps and bowman did not get along at the last olympics, yet he did well --I guess.

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    Re: Swim MAC Elite - A Study In Failure At Trials?

    Quote Originally Posted by gobears View Post
    Hmmm... this person has posted 10 times on the forum and 4 of them have been to trash Dave Marsh.
    This fit's description of a troll

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    Re: Swim MAC Elite - A Study In Failure At Trials?

    Quote Originally Posted by __steve__ View Post
    This fit's description of a troll
    Its an honest question - why did Lochte put his trust in Marsh along with Michael Lawrence, Cullen Jones and others - LOCKS to make the team in MULTIPLE events...but get let down this way?

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    Re: Swim MAC Elite - A Study In Failure At Trials?

    Braun,

    Swimming is a tough sport, sometimes things work & sometimes they don't. No one is a Lock.
    Adams did fine
    Feigen
    Ervin
    Lochte made 2 IM & 800 relay
    Who else that Marsh coached made the team?

    Swimmers have to place first or 2nd in the finals of their races, it's nearly impossible, only 26 men & 26 women can make team USA, also note some outstanding US swimmers who are dual citizens elected to NOT represent the US.

    Marsh has helped many swimmers swim fast & will be Team USAs women's coach while you BraunBaby are a cowardly anonymous internet TROLL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BraunMan View Post
    Its an honest question - why did Lochte put his trust in Marsh along with Michael Lawrence, Cullen Jones and others - LOCKS to make the team in MULTIPLE events...but get let down this way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ande View Post
    Braun,

    Swimming is a tough sport, sometimes things work & sometimes they don't. No one is a Lock.
    Adams did fine
    Feigen
    Ervin
    Lochte made 2 IM & 800 relay
    Who else that Marsh coached made the team?

    Swimmers have to place first or 2nd in the finals of their races, it's nearly impossible, only 26 men & 26 women can make team USA, also note some outstanding US swimmers who are dual citizens elected to NOT represent the US.

    Marsh has helped many swimmers swim fast & will be Team USAs women's coach while you BraunBaby are a cowardly anonymous internet TROLL.

    Ande Rasmussen

    Marsh is overrated and should NOT be the head women's coach.

    The MAC Elite group had access to so much, yet Marsh got outcoached by Bauerle, Reese, amongst others as his PROFESSIONALS were SCHOOLED by college boys and girls.

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    Re: Swim MAC Elite - A Study In Failure At Trials?

    Quote Originally Posted by BraunMan View Post
    Marsh is overrated and should NOT be the head women's coach.

    The MAC Elite group had access to so much, yet Marsh got outcoached by Bauerle, Reese, amongst others as his PROFESSIONALS were SCHOOLED by college boys and girls.
    There were a number of professional swimmers who were "schooled" by college men and women, and they weren't all from SwimMac.
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    Re: Swim MAC Elite - A Study In Failure At Trials?

    How many MAC swimmers made the Olympic team? I know of Lochte, Meili, Baker, and Adams. Are there any others? I think Ervin recently started training there, but he was listed as unattached at Trials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knelson View Post
    How many MAC swimmers made the Olympic team? I know of Lochte, Meili, Baker, and Adams. Are there any others? I think Ervin recently started training there, but he was listed as unattached at Trials.
    Swimswam has 7 swimmers from Cal, 5 from Georgia and 5 from SwimMac as the leaders:

    https://swimswam.com/interactive-maps-2016-u-s-olympic-team-training-base-hometown/


    I don't see BraunMan's superior contribution on that list. I also know that list is fluid. Kathleen Baker (Cal) is from SwimMAC originally. Ervin sported a SwimMAC cap so he obviously has some allegiance. Not sure what the OP's personal grudge is about but his assertions are pretty silly.

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    Re: Swim MAC Elite - A Study In Failure At Trials?

    I wonder, did BraunMan contribute to this?

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    Re: Swim MAC Elite - A Study In Failure At Trials?

    Quote Originally Posted by scyfreestyler View Post
    I wonder, did BraunMan contribute to this?

    https://swimswam.com/swimmac-carolin...d-in-swimming/
    lol

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    Re: Swim MAC Elite - A Study In Failure At Trials?

    Quote Originally Posted by BraunMan View Post
    Marsh is overrated and should NOT be the head women's coach. The MAC Elite group had access to so much, yet Marsh got outcoached by Bauerle, Reese, amongst others as his PROFESSIONALS were SCHOOLED by college boys and girls.
    Braun,

    How did you swim at trials?
    How did the swimmers you coach do at trials?

    Marsh did great, 11 SwimMAC swimmers finaled and 6 made team USA. That's impressive, considering how hard it is to qualify for our OT.
    Swimmers must get 2nd in individual events & top 6 in the 100 & 200 FR.

    Of the 2016 U.S. Olympic roster published yesterday, six swimmers have ties to the club of SwimMAC Carolina.
    1. Ryan Lochte,
    2. Cammile Adams,
    3 Anthony Ervin,
    4. Katie Meili,
    5. Kathleen Baker and
    6. Jimmy Feigen

    Not on the Olympic roster, but having also made Trials finals for SwimMAC Elite were
    1. Tyler Clary
    2. Cullen Jones,
    3. Micah Lawrence,
    4. Madison Kennedy
    5. Tim Phillips

    for swimmers who missed and had good shots.
    Some of the blame falls on swimmers and some of the blame falls on coaches. It just depends how each swimmer prepared for trials and performed at trials.

    Braun, haters gonna hate, hate hate. you obviously have some sort of axe to grind against Marsh. Looks like you're an overly critical Saturday Evening Couch coach.
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    Re: Swim MAC Elite - A Study In Failure At Trials?

    Coaching a 35 year old making the team in the world's two fastest swimming events is contrary to this threads title. I thought Dressel would make the #2 50

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    Re: Swim MAC Elite - A Study In Failure At Trials?

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    Coaching a 35 year old making the team in the world's two fastest swimming events is contrary to this threads title. I thought Dressel would make the #2 50

    Dressel shouldn't have been close except for the superior coaching of Gregg Troy. Marsh has everything at his disposal that Troy does not have. Cullen Jones and Anthony Irvin only have to prepare long course and train for trials.

    Cullen Jones' failure to qualify is a huge indictment on Marsh.

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    Re: Swim MAC Elite - A Study In Failure At Trials?

    Curious BM, what ways specifically, did Marsh fail these swimmers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BraunMan View Post
    The MAC Elite group had access to so much, yet Marsh got outcoached by Bauerle, Reese, amongst others as his PROFESSIONALS were SCHOOLED by college boys and girls.
    This is just categorically, demonstrably false.

    Bauerle tied Marsh at 5 swimmers qualified, and don't be surprised if SwimMac does better than UG. And Reese was outshined by Marsh. 5>3, last I checked.

    This really is a silly thread.

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    Re: Swim MAC Elite - A Study In Failure At Trials?

    Quote Originally Posted by BraunMan View Post
    Dressel shouldn't have been close except for the superior coaching of Gregg Troy. Marsh has everything at his disposal that Troy does not have. Cullen Jones and Anthony Irvin only have to prepare long course and train for trials.

    Cullen Jones' failure to qualify is a huge indictment on Marsh.
    I'm curious, have you spoken with athletes from SwimMac? It would seem to me that they would be in a far better position to make indictments (lol!) of their coach than some online forum poster with limited information. Marsh is a well respected coach for a reason. What exactly are your qualifications?
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    Re: Swim MAC Elite - A Study In Failure At Trials?

    Quote Originally Posted by scyfreestyler View Post
    What exactly are your qualifications?
    Jiminy Crickets, people. It's clear he's well qualified as a troll. Let the thread die and he will go away.
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