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    Re: The Sprint Free Lane

    Quote Originally Posted by __steve__ View Post
    Thanks That,

    MS 2.7.2 just states that it needs to be in writing to ref beforehand, thats it ?

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    Thank you Rob. Was trying to view the pdf's on my phone which made it difficult. Anyhow, thinking of writing 50 requests for the 100, 200, and 400 frees at my states SCM event in Cola. The reason why is because I get faster with successive all-out attempts when practicing and furthermore screw up something.

    Definately not the 1500 though, don't want to delay the meet - lol

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    Re: The Sprint Free Lane

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    What is the method for requesting a split of a greater distance event ? I understand it must be submitted in writing to the referee, but is that it?
    The way it works in practice is,when you get to the meet go to the Clerk of the Course.Ask them for the request for split form.Fill it out and hand it to them.
    Then it is a good idea to tell the others in your heat what you are going to do.
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    Re: The Sprint Free Lane

    Thank you for the specifics, that's exactly what I needed. Makes perfect sense to let adjacent competitors know my plan so I wont distract them

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    Re: The Sprint Free Lane

    After I touch in my split, when completing the remaining event on that wall can I push off (double touch) or do I need to start from the dig?

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    Re: The Sprint Free Lane

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    After I touch in my split, when completing the remaining event on that wall can I push off (double touch) or do I need to start from the dig?
    Touch with your hand to finish that length.Hang on to the wall for as long as you need to,then push off and finish the race. I did a 100 split in a 200 BR at my last meet and a friend asked why I hung on to the wall so long after the 100 and I said" because I was tired".(He knew I was doing the 100 split,he just thought I'd swim through it.)
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    Re: The Sprint Free Lane

    hi there,
    how much are sprinters slower compared to distance swimmers (for me, everything above 200m ) at the beginning of the season when training basic aerobic workout. I am currently in a group like this and its quite frustrating not to keep up with them
    thanks

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    Re: The Sprint Free Lane

    Quote Originally Posted by dolu View Post
    hi there,
    how much are sprinters slower compared to distance swimmers (for me, everything above 200m ) at the beginning of the season when training basic aerobic workout. I am currently in a group like this and its quite frustrating not to keep up with them
    thanks
    Haven't discovered if it's from laziness, genetics, or if I'm genetically lazy, but I'm progressively slower than distance people in events from 50 and up. The only thing I'm not much slower than distance swimmers in is perhaps the 25, but I haven't done this one yet.
    Last edited by __steve__; November 14th, 2012 at 11:11 AM. Reason: Split Request form can be found in USMS rule book pg 143

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    Re: The Sprint Free Lane

    This is cool - Biondi vs Jager, again? Old school everything yet very, very fast.

    Found this on Fort's blog

    http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com...-in-Long-Beach
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    Re: The Sprint Free Lane

    25 M free in 9.28 at 2013 RG Classic!

    Eric McGinnis 25 - 29

    To put this into perspective, at this year's Worlds Cielo went 21.32 winning the 50 LCM free and his midrace 25m was 9.72. Here is the biomechanical breakdown the race:

    surface 15m 25m 35m 45m 50m
    Cielo, Cesar 3.92 5.28 9.72 14.28 19.08 21.32
    Morozov, Vladimir 3.00 5.24 9.76 14.44 19.24 21.47
    Bovell, George 2.60 5.24 9.76 14.36 19.28 21.51
    Adrian, Nathan 3.64 5.32 9.92 14.52 19.36 21.60
    Manaudou, Florent 4.52 5.24 9.80 14.44 19.44 21.64
    Ervin, Anthony 2.56 5.60 10.04 14.60 19.40 21.65
    Schoeman, Roland 4.40 5.16 9.72 14.56 19.60 21.85
    Bousquet, Frederick 4.76 5.32 9.92 14.64 19.68 21.93


    This is as pure as sprinting gets in swimming, I believe it should be recognized as an event.

    Current 2013 SCM USMS Times for Men Ages 18-104

    So what is the fastest legitimate 25M swim ever recorded?
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    Re: The Sprint Free Lane

    Sprinters

    I am swimming for 30 mins before work a few days a week in the fast lane of a busy public pool. I find the easiest thing to do is a quick one length sprint when circumstances permit - I cant do them off a regular time due to invading breastrokers, slow bobblers, and those who think the middle of the lane is for the slowest swimmers to stop other overtaking .... nuff said

    As a result I am looking at the optimum minor technical changes between swimming a 25m length or 50m , as opposed to say a 100m. There is no easily visible second clock so I am having to go by feel of how I am doing

    What beneficial changes have you noticed to your stroke technique when you have sprinted faster ? Ideas please

    Increased tempo obviously, but should I maintain the same stroke length as well, which seems difficult? Increased tempo also seems to mean I rotate less - is this an issue ? when I speed up I seem to swim flatter- does this go with the territory ? should I begin the catch a bit earlier ? is there really different ultra sprint stroke?
    Fenella [trying flying - and has flown !]

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    Re: The Sprint Free Lane

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenella View Post
    I cant do them off a regular time due to invading breastrokers, slow bobblers, and those who think the middle of the lane is for the slowest swimmers to stop other overtaking .... nuff said
    Nah, just incorporate those obstacles into your sprints. Whenever you encounter such people, submerge, dolphin kick past them (on your back, smiling would be a nice touch), surface, then carry on. That'll teach 'em.

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