I am experiencing shoulder pain (impingement I think - top of shoulder). Should backstroke entry be back of hand first or pinky first?
Does a more back-of-hand entry perhaps suggest not enough roll?
Perhaps I'm not rolling enough. Not due to entry problems, but during release my entire forearm lifts the water in the air like I'm lifting weights
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As of 1/1/14 The wedge for backstroke is Legal! I look forward to trying it.
Has anyone trided it yet?
I'd like more info and to see FINA's official wording in the rules.
-As of Jan. 1, 2014, a new backstroke starting ledge will be permitted for starts. The ledge is comparable to the wedge or fin device now used on blocks for forward starts and hangs from the starting block by straps. The rule for use of the ledge will still require both feet to be in contact with the wall or pad, and the toes will not be allowed to curl over the top of the gutter or timing pad. Once an athlete starts, the ledge will have to be removed for turns and finishes. It is advised that a coach or teammate remove the device for the athlete after the start and place it on the deck. FINA will be releasing specifications and dimensions for those approved wedges in the coming weeks. We will pass along more information on this as it becomes available.
EXCLUSIVE VIDEO: Testing New Backstroke Platform at USA Swimming Nationals
Published:June 28, 2013
Pros and Cons of New Omega Backstroke Starting Platform
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So this is a little ledge dangled in the water from the block on which your heel rests? The only images I could find were above the water, and didn't show how the swimmer's foot interacts with them.
A short video...
Great news. Most backstrokers have never felt too confident about getting a solid foothold at the start.
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Should the finish of the stroke involve a flick down of the hand in order to initiate body roll? If not, how is body roll initiated as I have a hard time accepting that it is the kick?
Also should hand scull on exit or knife out on exit?
Regarding the finish, when one leans into the catch with the entry arm, the roll is going to drive both the opposite hip and underwater hand closer to the surface (as it's getting ready for the recovery). Try to exit thumb first. As you said, knife out.
This coach has some good observations in his article on two different styles...
It depends on the touchpad being used... I loved the Colorado pads at Greensboro a few years ago, maybe they're a bit more course than Omega. But I'm really looking forward to trying a submerged ledge.
Thanks - that video was helpful. I prefer the Japanese swimmer's stroke to Lochte's stroke.
a comment on Omega touch pads ... i think they are terrible ... i just competed in a masters meet at georgia tech and they have these pads ... the surface is far more slippery than other pads i've used ... completely bombed my first race the 100 scm back, after my foot slipped i was dead in the water ... didn't have the option of just holding onto the gutter as they are full height pads ... my 2 other starts were cautious and very slow ... omega should be pushing for this new "starting ledge"
a word in regards to the new "backstroke ledge" that has been approved by FINA ... with the number of different blocks that are scattered about in our pools this device might be block specific which probably means it will be awhile till it gets to a pool near you ... could this be an instance of reinventing the wheel ? ... most pools i've swam and competed in have open finish gutters and use touch pads that hang on the gutter ... there is a built in backstroke ledge, its called the "lip of the gutter" ... years ago that is what we used and that was with or without touch pads and starts were quicker and i don't remember anyone getting hurt in 7 years of competition ... the only place you couldn't do this are in pools with overhangs on the finish gutters who also have full height finish pads, then a ledge would help ... but this is probably a small percentage of pools in this country ...
another problem with full height finish pads is it slows the meet down ... at a meet at georgia tech recently they had the full height pads and 85% plus people could not climb out at the finish end but had to slide over to the side wall at the conclusion of every race to use the ladder ( myself included ) ... thats 10 lanes of swimmers ... no "over the top starting" there
I haven't used one yet but I think the ledges are a great idea.