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    2016 Masters Motivational Times

    Let's get this party started!

    Here are the 2016 motivational times.

    New! Motivational times are now presented in three formats: human-readable PDF, and two CSV spreadsheets. In the first spreadsheet (mm:ss), times are rendered in the usual minute:second notation. In the second (sec), times are converted to seconds, which facilitates stuff like this. Have fun!



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    Motivational times (MTs) are calculated from the base time given in Column X. The algorithm for calculating the base time is similar, but not identical to, the method USMS uses to calculate national qualifying times (NQTs) for the annual SCY national championships.

    Most of the time, Column X is
    (A) the average of the previous three year’s 10th place times.

    However, if there are fewer than three 10th place times over the previous three years, we use, in order,
    (B) average of two 10th place times over the previous three years. If there are fewer than two 10th place times,
    (C) average of three 5th place times + 4.45%. If there are fewer than three,
    (D) average of two 5th place times + 4.45%. If there are fewer than two,
    (E) No Time (NT).

    If one of the alternatives B-D is used, it’s indicated by a superscript.

    The rest of the columns are proportional to Column X as follows,

    AAAA = X + 5%
    A = X + 20%
    AAA = X + 10%
    BB = X + 30%
    AA = X + 15%
    B = X + 40%
    For MTs, the same algorithm is used for all three courses, SCY, LCM, and SCM.

    Relationship to NQTs. For SCY, as long as Column X is calculated using method A, B, or E, Columns AA and AAA should be, but are not guaranteed to be, exactly the NQTs for sprints and 200+ events respectively. However, there will be some small differences for methods C and D. For LCM, the MTs should be different from the NQTs in all cases. USMS does not publish NQTs for SCM or for age groups 85+.

    Column X. I like to think of Column X as “the moral equivalent of a Top Ten time”. Of course, in any given year, the 10th place time will be faster or slower by some amount than the average of the three previous years, so of course, Column X is not an actual Top Ten time. Too bad, huh? You can also think of it as “the time I need to hit to have about a 50/50 chance.”
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    Re: 2016 Masters Motivational Times

    Thanks Swimosaurus Rex!

    Good indicator I should either focus on LCM or get better at turns

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    Re: 2016 Masters Motivational Times

    Oh wow, thanks for doing this! I found the pace chart for the longer distances so we can see what pace we need to hit targets.
    http://www.usms.org/fitness/pacechart.php
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    Re: 2016 Masters Motivational Times

    Thanks, Swimosaur! Happy New Year! What meets are you shooting for this year? I hope to see you at one of them! I'm sure I'll see you in Greensboro, right?
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    Re: 2016 Masters Motivational Times

    Thank you!

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    Re: 2016 Masters Motivational Times

    Quote Originally Posted by ElaineK View Post
    What meets are you shooting for this year? ... I'm sure I'll see you in Greensboro, right?
    I don't know what my meet schedule is going to be. I'm hoping to make it to Greensboro, but not sure yet!

    And thanks for the opportunity to give this thread a gratuitous bump ...

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    Re: 2016 Masters Motivational Times

    Quote Originally Posted by Swimosaur View Post

    Thanks, Swimosaur! See you at UGA on Saturday? Hey, while I'm at it, check this out! https://www.growingbolder.com/swimmi...spirit-890233/
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    Re: 2016 Masters Motivational Times

    2016 SCM posted.
    Attached Files Attached Files

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    Re: 2016 Masters Motivational Times

    Quote Originally Posted by Swimosaur View Post
    2016 SCM posted.
    You're the best, Swimosaur- thanks!
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    Re: 2016 Masters Motivational Times

    You would need to add several more columns to the right to make it meaningful to me.

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    Re: 2016 Masters Motivational Times

    Quote Originally Posted by Sumorunner View Post
    You would need to add several more columns to the right to make it meaningful to me.
    I keep slip-sliding away right off the page in some events (200 fly, for sure!), so I can relate, Sumo. Remember what Dory told Nemo, though, OK? Keep on swimming!
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    Re: 2016 Masters Motivational Times

    Thank you! I think I'm better than I think I am!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElaineK View Post
    I keep slip-sliding away right off the page in some events (200 fly, for sure!), so I can relate, Sumo. Remember what Dory told Nemo, though, OK? Keep on swimming!
    Keep on Truckin, Elaine K.

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    Re: 2016 Masters Motivational Times

    Quote Originally Posted by cinc3100 View Post
    Keep on Truckin, Elaine K.
    You are good.

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