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    Re: Butterfly is Not a Crime

    Quote Originally Posted by swimflyfast View Post
    First Distance Non-Crawl Postal Swim
    Warrenton Masters Swim Program is excited to be offering a one of a kind postal swim without "Crawl".
    "Butterfly is Not a Crime"
    The Medley Relays will be 3 x 500 Back, Breast, and Fly.
    Imagine being the anchor of a relay finishing it up with a 500 fly. It can't get much better then that!

    You will have a year to swim events and you will be able to swim at meets, practices, or on your own for times.
    Open water events must be swum in USMS or FINA sanctioned events (insurance).

    You may submit as many times as you want during the year. Obviously the first ones in will automatically set an Unofficial World Nonconforming Record. They will receive an Official Proclamation from the mayor of our fair town, the Honorable George B Fitch (co-founder of the 1988 Jamaican Olympic Bobsled Team) proclaiming to the entire world the details of your feat.

    Our web site is in the last stage of beta and we need critical eyes.
    We will be submitting for sanction at the end of the week.
    Please send critical comments to swimflyfast@warrentonmasters.org

    I am curious to find out which stroke gets the most participants.

    Web Site link:

    2013 - 2014 Butterfly is Not a Crime Distance Postal Swim
    You need to make it an individual event also.1500 IM no free,ending with fly,sounds like a good challenge
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    Re: Butterfly is Not a Crime

    Oh let's just call it a 1600 im & let's see who signs up !!!

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    Re: Butterfly is Not a Crime

    Quote Originally Posted by Allen Stark View Post
    You need to make it an individual event also.1500 IM no free,ending with fly,sounds like a good challenge
    Thanks, it is already an event, I'm looking forward to trying that one out! see web site.. Just made a clarification for the order to be Backstroke, Breaststroke, Butterfly.
    Last edited by swimflyfast; August 13th, 2013 at 05:34 PM. Reason: detail added

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    Re: Butterfly is Not a Crime

    Click on the link to the website. There are about 30 individual events and 15 relays! Lots of challenges!

    Web Site link:
    2013 - 2014 Butterfly is Not a Crime Distance Postal Swim
    http://swimflyfast.com/

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    Re: Butterfly is Not a Crime

    Open water butterfly swimming video. Great core building. www.swimflyfast.com
    I recommend swimming in the opposite direction, it was hard to see the waves coming. You have to get your timing just right to be able to punch through the waves.
    This was a rare day at Virginia beach in August with no body else in the water other then the parasailing water skiers. There was a tremendous rip-tide just under the surface. It's fun to swim on red flag days.

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    Re: The Butterfly Lane

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    I found this last night and tried the SAP drill and Half-fly today... nice! My legs and shoulders needed the break from a hard workout yesterday, but I expected this to be painfully slow. It really wasn't, and put me in touch with the way my hips should be driving the legs. I think especially in the underwaters I really thrash the legs b/c I'm trying to get distance and momentum, but in SAP and half-fly drills, without purposely kicking the legs, I was surprised to see how much momentum I was generating... a real revelation.

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    Re: The Butterfly Lane

    500 Fly Prep Main Set

    10 x 50 Fly on 1:00 500 pace (hold back, watch clock)
    Rest one min

    500 Fly (even pace)
    go right into EZ 50 Free

    5 x 100 Fly on 1:50 500 pace (hold back the first few, watch clock)

    Broken 200 fly at 25 (5 sec rest) SPEED!

    6 x 25 Fly Sprint 20 sec rest

    Long warm down.

    Butterfly is Not a Crime Postal Swim is now Sanctioned by USMS!
    Swim 500yd, 400m, 1000yd, 800m, 1650yd, 1500m and open water 1mile 2 mile.
    www.swimflyfast.com

    Now mailing first mayoral proclamations to current record holders (unofficial, unrecognized, nonconforming world records)

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    Re: The Butterfly Lane

    65+ young Joan Danielson of Oregon Masters sets new record in the 500 Fly for "Butterfly is Not a Crime Postal Swim" (now sanctioned by USMS).
    Next on her bucket list is the 1500 yard non-crawl IM!
    Go Joan!

    www.ButterflyisNotaCrime.com

    Main Set
    4 x 50 Fly Build up from 1st 50 to max speed on 4th one.
    6 x 100 butterfly
    100 Fly with 25 easy Kick(odd on back, even on front) between each 100 as the rest (continuous)
    First length of each 100 stroke drill.
    50 EZ free
    3 x 200 broken 5 seconds at each 25. 1st Fly, 2nd Free, 3rd Fly
    50 EZ kick

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    Re: The Butterfly Lane

    Main Set Sprint Ladders

    During ladders swim with active rest EZ 25 kick Keep up speed on hundred. The hundred on the third ladder needs to be within 5 seconds of the first one.

    50 100 50 Fly No stop EZ 25 Kick between each
    30 Seconds Rest

    100 Crawl Distance per Stoke
    1 min rest
    2x50 Fly for Time, Attack first 2 strokes at start and out of turn.
    30 Second Rest

    8x50 Odd Crawl distance per stroke, Even fly Fast
    1 min rest

    50 100 50 Fly No stop EZ 25 Kick between each
    1 min rest keep focus on good stroke form here.

    50 100 50 Fly No stop EZ 25 Kick between each
    Focus on keeping 100 speed up

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    Re: The Butterfly Lane

    'was looking for something else and found this:
    http://swimswam.com/3000-meters-butterfly-video/

    Denizens of this lane should approve.

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    Re: The Butterfly Lane

    Without reading all 34 pages of posts to see if anyone else is/was in the same boat as me, here's my situation: I've been swimming Masters for 2.5 years now and compete regularly (usually 7-10 meets per short course season). Back in the day, I was a backstroker and butterflier, and my events were the 200 back, 200 fly, and 400 IM. That was...a while...ago, though. Over the past 1.5 years, I've focused on backstroke and have had great results. Dropped back down to within 4 seconds of my old 200 back time at the Indy Nats. However, now I'd like to switch focus and work on my fly, specifically the 200 fly.

    I've been able to BS my way through the 50 and 100 fly the past couple years without much real fly training, and am fairly satisfied with how I've swum in them. For the 200 fly, though, I'm scratching my head on the most efficacious way to train for that event. Due to my work and coaching schedule (I coach both kiddos and Masters), I can only practice 3-4 times a week. I'm only one of two swimmers on the team who even consider doing more than a 100 fly, so none of the sets at the practices we swim at are written for flyers. I've pretty much written off any substantive fly training happening during the organized Masters practices, since there are just too many people for me to just swim fly instead of XYZ stroke we're supposed to be doing.

    My current plan is to swim three times a week with my team and then 2-3 times a week on my own (for about 1-1.5 hours each time). Since it's been so long since I trained for the 200 fly, and back then I was doing doubles and about 12,000 yards a day, what would y'all recommend I do to train for it when I swim on my own?

    I've swum the 200 fly three times in meets as a Masters swimmer. I did it once on a whim two years ago when I was able to practice 6 times a week, so I was in better overall shape than I am now, and went a 2:32. I swam it two weeks ago (after almost a month out of the water due to work conflicts) and went a 2:47. Swam it again this past weekend after swimming two practices all fly with fins and went a 2:43. My goal time is around a 2:20 by Santa Clara. I've got the technique down, I'm just struggling mightily with the endurance now, and have never trained for the 200 fly outside of age group swimming.

    EDIT--Man, I'd totally forgotten about the stroke/IM workouts that are posted on the forum. I'll check those out and modify them as needed. Still, I welcome any additional advice y'all have. Thanks!
    Last edited by habu987; February 10th, 2014 at 12:26 PM.

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    Re: The Butterfly Lane

    Without reading all 5 paragraphs to see what you said, I'll respond: swim more fly.
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    Re: The Butterfly Lane

    you cant BS a 200 fly

    period!

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    Re: The Butterfly Lane

    ...but you can fake a pretty good one sometimes. :-)

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    Re: The Butterfly Lane

    Quote Originally Posted by jaadams1 View Post
    ...but you can fake a pretty good one sometimes. :-)
    No you can,most people can't(unless you call butterfrog faking it then,yes,I can too.)
    "To strive,to seek,to find,and not to yield" Tennyson
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    Re: The Butterfly Lane

    Quote Originally Posted by Allen Stark View Post
    No you can,most people can't(unless you call butterfrog faking it then,yes,I can too.)
    I can use 3 beat kick to get through a 200 fly (or longer). It's not fakery, it's just slow aerobic fly.

    Most of the time, that's not how I want to swim the event though...
    "I blame you, James!" - knelson

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    Re: The Butterfly Lane

    Elaniak and That Guy featured on SwimSwam ...

    http://swimswam.com/7-distance-butte...ringe-in-pain/

    But which guy?

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    I categorically deny everything.

    I partially deny most things.

    I weakly deny a few things.

    The camera adds 10 pounds.
    "I blame you, James!" - knelson

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    Re: The Butterfly Lane

    Hey, That Guy! Your video is directly below mine! Somehow, they missed my 2,000 fly; however I posted the links in the comments.Swimosaur, thanks for posting! It was quite a surprise!So, off the topic, why am I having such a difficult time getting a post through to the Forums? I am unable to reply with a quote, the Smilies aren't working, and I can't get my favorite font. It's a CONSPIRACY AGAINST BLUE COMIC SANS!Seriously, over the past few days, when I try to reply with quote, I can't get it to work at all. I've tried on both my desktop and netbook computers. PLEASE HELP! I miss my font an Smilies! :-(
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    Re: The Butterfly Lane

    Quote Originally Posted by ElaineK View Post
    Hey, That Guy! Your video is directly below mine! Somehow, they missed my 2,000 fly; however I posted the links in the comments.Swimosaur, thanks for posting! It was quite a surprise!So, off the topic, why am I having such a difficult time getting a post through to the Forums? I am unable to reply with a quote, the Smilies aren't working, and I can't get my favorite font. It's a CONSPIRACY AGAINST BLUE COMIC SANS!Seriously, over the past few days, when I try to reply with quote, I can't get it to work at all. I've tried on both my desktop and netbook computers. PLEASE HELP! I miss my font an Smilies! :-(
    It's working okay for me, Elaine. I wonder if you accidentally changed your Forum settings.
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