I AM REVIVING THIS THREADWhy? Because today I taught myself the backstroke to breaststroke flip turn. I've never been able to do it with any consistency before, but now I've got it. Here's what I did. The pool was nearly empty so I moved to the center of the pool and did 10 x 25 back-to-breast, starting and finishing in the middle. The first two sucked because I was trying to do something like this [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSKt6S4jLLA"]YouTube- ‪Eric Shanteau Back - Breast Transition Turn‬‎[/nomedia] or this [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfRn9LMd44s"]YouTube- ‪Adam Mania's Back to Breast turn‬‎[/nomedia] and I just can't seem to get that right. So then for #3 I decided to try this instead (I've seen this technique but I had never tried it before): [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoOJWnOj8S4"]YouTube- ‪Tay Back To Brerast‬‎[/nomedia] I cheated a little bit and looked at my hand before it touched the wall, but I completely nailed the turn. There's no rotating or twisting, just touch the wall and flip straight over. Then I nailed the turn 7 more times, at different speeds and off either hand. For the rest of the workout I started working these turns into my warmdown swims (e.g. alternating backstroke and freestyle each 25, doing this flip turn on each back-to-free transition) and eventually got to where I didn't need to look at the wall prior to flipping. That is important since by putting my head underwater prior to touching the wall, I'd be risking a DQ for submerging past 15 meters. If an idiot like me can learn this, then anyone can! WOO HOO!!! THERE'S A HALF SECOND I'M NOT GIVING UP ANYMORE!!!