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    Re: The IM Lane

    Quote Originally Posted by ande View Post
    EWWWW GROSS, I'm out.

    Key RULE:
    "All strokes and turns must be legal."
    any one armed fly or one hand touches on breast or fly automatically, DQ the swimmer. Along with extra freestyle strokes on backstroke.
    My swim was legal.

    I kinda want to do a 6000 IM now for the other postal swim
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    Re: The IM Lane

    Quote Originally Posted by ande View Post
    EWWWW GROSS, I'm out.

    Key RULE:
    "All strokes and turns must be legal."
    any one armed fly or one hand touches on breast or fly automatically, DQ the swimmer. Along with extra freestyle strokes on backstroke.
    Hey, Ande, if I can do a legal continuous 2,000 fly, That Guy(and a LOT of other people on the Forums) can EASILY do a legal 750 fly if they gave it a chance. I would gladly do this challenge if it weren't for the continue 750 breaststroke!
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    Re: The IM Lane

    Quote Originally Posted by That Guy View Post
    My swim was legal.

    I kinda want to do a 6000 IM now for the other postal swim
    Yes, That Guy, I know.

    I would even do the 6000 IM for the other postal swim if it weren't for the darn 1500 breaststroke!
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    Re: The IM Lane

    Quote Originally Posted by That Guy View Post
    I kinda want to do a 6000 IM now for the other postal swim
    Yep, we've lost him.
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    Re: The IM Lane

    Quote Originally Posted by That Guy View Post
    My swim was legal.

    I kinda want to do a 6000 IM now for the other postal swim
    Mine too!!!

    • Ande has a point. IMHO there is no reason to do a 3000 IM if you are training for the 18 pool events. There is no reason, ever, to swim a 750 fly.

    • At the same time, there is no reason, ever, to climb a mountain, or swim a 4 mile IM. So why do people do it? Because it's there! Yahoo!!!

    That said, I am not too interested in swimming a 6000 IM. For me, the 3000 IM was mostly garbage yardage & I was wasted for a couple of days afterwards. If you can do it, more power to you!

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    Re: The IM Lane

    Quote Originally Posted by jaadams1 View Post
    Yep, we've lost him.
    Wait, when did you ever--NEVER MIND
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swimosaur View Post
    Mine too!!!

    • Ande has a point. IMHO there is no reason to do a 3000 IM if you are training for the 18 pool events. There is no reason, ever, to swim a 750 fly.

    • At the same time, there is no reason, ever, to climb a mountain, or swim a 4 mile IM. So why do people do it? Because it's there! Yahoo!!!
    That said, I am not too interested in swimming a 6000 IM. For me, the 3000 IM was mostly garbage yardage & I was wasted for a couple of days afterwards. If you can do it, more power to you!
    Exactly. Sure, there is no reason to swim a 3,000 or 6,000 IM and I suppose it's garbage yardage, but, on the other hand, it is an endurance swim. That's a good thing, isn't it?

    Does every swim have to have a purpose or reason? Sometimes, I think it's fine to do a swim just because; because you want to being the first "because" that comes to mind. But, for me, the fringe benefit of doing a swim like that is it builds confidence. Achieving a goal that I set for myself is always a good thing!
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    Re: The IM Lane

    In thinking about my recent 3000 IM, a possible upcoming 6000 IM, and the upcoming Brute Squad swim (300 fly + 100 back + 100 breast + 1750 free; [ame="http://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?t=20984"]Fitness Events and Challenges - U.S. Masters Swimming Discussion Forums[/ame]), at some point I remembered The Cumberland (500 free + 400 IM + 300 back + 200 breast + 100 fly; [ame="http://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?t=12792"]New Year's swims - U.S. Masters Swimming Discussion Forums[/ame]) and decided that since it's been almost 4 years, I definitely needed to swim it again. So this morning I posted a 19:40 (rough splits: 5:50, 11:23, 15:21, ???, 19:40) and then found in that New Year's thread that I was a little slower this morning that I was back then.

    This challenge should be a bit more accessible than a 3000 or 6000 IM. What say you?
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    Re: The IM Lane

    The 2013 Checkoff Challenge includes the 800 IM

    http://www.usms.org/files/sanction/2...king_sheet.pdf
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    Re: The IM Lane

    A TRUE IM should be 750 of each. I'll try to think of that !!

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    Re: The IM Lane

    Quote Originally Posted by That Guy View Post
    The 2013 Checkoff Challenge includes the 800 IM

    http://www.usms.org/files/sanction/2...king_sheet.pdf
    Did you have anything to do with this? An absolute outrage!!
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    Re: The IM Lane

    Quote Originally Posted by jaadams1 View Post
    Did you have anything to do with this? An absolute outrage!!
    I had nothing to do with it, but I will begrudgingly complete the challenge. RAAAAGE
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    Re: The IM Lane

    Quote Originally Posted by That Guy View Post
    The 2013 Checkoff Challenge includes the 800 IM

    http://www.usms.org/files/sanction/2...king_sheet.pdf
    I'm game, for some pain.
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    Re: The IM Lane

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    Re: The IM Lane

    I couldn't find this thread when I did an advanced search; however, fatboy did. Thanks! Evidently, I have posted on this thread in the past.

    Two of my favorite non-core events are the 200 fly and 400 IM, and my goal is to improve my times for both of them. (At this point, I'm better at the 400 IM.)

    What are your favorite sets to train for IM races? Laurie Hug has excellent workouts in the "Stroke and IM Workouts" thread, and this is one of my favorites (posted on January 12):

    WORKOUT #2
    W/U: 2-1-2-1-2 (200 dr/sw, 100k, 200p, 100k, 200 im dr/sw)
    (800)

    PS: 16 x 75:
    1-4 on 1:15 or 1:25 or 1:35 or R10s: IM order
    5-8 on 1:10 or 1:20 or 1:30 or R10s: 50 IM order/25 free
    9-12 on 1:05 or 1:15 or 1:25 or R10s: 25 IM order/50 free
    13-16 on 1:00 or 1:10 or 1:15 or R10s: free
    (1200)

    MS: 1 x 1000 (800 – skip last 200) done as:
    200: alt 25 fast fly/25 easy free
    200: alt 50 fast bk/50 easy free
    200: 100 fast br/100 easy free

    200: IM: 25 drill/25 fast
    200: easy free

    8 (or 6 – skip the last 2) x 100 on 1:30 or 1:45 or 2:00
    Odds=Fast IMO or prime working the turns and finish
    Evens=Easy free descending stroke count by 25
    (1400-1800)

    CD: 200-400 done as 50 ch dr/50 ch/50 fr dr/50 fr (2x)
    Total: 3600-4200

    Today, I swam it as 3,600 and then added Karl's 4x50 fly set (after the warm up) and some extra kicking (at the end before cool down) to round it out to 4,000 yards. This workout kicks my
    , but I am determined kick it back!

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    Re: The IM Lane

    I like the 4 x 50 fly set after the warm-up too. I can really tell how good a shape I'm in for fly by doing that set. Now that I'm thinking about useful sets that I haven't done in a while... 8 x 25 dolphins (bk or front) w/ fins on an close interval (:30 for me) is another great one for warm-ups or maybe beginning of cool-downs (nice core and leg conditioning among other things).

    The last month I've let my fly go somewhat and have focused on 200 back; 20 x 50 on 1:00 at 200 pace is one of my favorite sets for that. Also, inspired by USRPT, I'm thinking about incorporating a 40 x 25 on :40 set for back... I imagine that would be great for your fly too.

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    Re: The IM Lane

    Quote Originally Posted by mcnair View Post
    Also, inspired by USRPT, I'm thinking about incorporating a 40 x 25 on :40 set for back... I imagine that would be great for your fly too.

    The only way I could imagine doing that as a fly set would be to cruise those 25's. Putting any speed into it would be brutal! (Funny, but that set sounds way more difficult than the continuous 2,000 fly I swam at a VERY cruise pace.) Why don't you give it a try and report back to us!
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    Re: The IM Lane

    Quote Originally Posted by ElaineK View Post

    The only way I could imagine doing that as a fly set would be to cruise those 25's. Putting any speed into it would be brutal! (Funny, but that set sounds way more difficult than the continuous 2,000 fly I swam at a VERY cruise pace.) Why don't you give it a try and report back to us!
    I agree; I think it's a much better set for back than for fly... I've done 20 x 25 on :45 with fly, holding between 100-200 pace. You might start there. I might do the 40 x 25 back later today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcnair View Post
    I agree; I think it's a much better set for back than for fly... I've done 20 x 25 on :45 with fly, holding between 100-200 pace. You might start there. I might do the 40 x 25 back later today.

    I'll try it over the weekend. Tomorrow, I'm going to try to improve my times on the fly set Karl suggested over on The Butterfly Lane before continuing on with my Fast Friday sprint workout.
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    Re: The IM Lane

    Quote Originally Posted by ElaineK View Post

    I'll try it over the weekend. Tomorrow, I'm going to try to improve my times on the fly set Karl suggested over on The Butterfly Lane before continuing on with my Fast Friday sprint workout.
    I did a couple of those broken 200s today in my transition from warm-up to the main set (40 x 25 bk on :40). Went :47, :49, :49, :49 on the 4 x 50 fly on 1:00 (slower than I was a few months ago), then 100 bk recovery, then :38, :40, :40, :39 on 4 x 50 fr on :10r. But both add-ups are pretty good reflection of my SCY PRs in the 200 events (mid 3:10s in fly, high 2:30s in free).

    The 40 x 25 bk set, was definitely goal pace for 200... no way I could do that many reps of 25 at 50 or 100 pace right now... I was right around :22 for most of the set (my short-term goal is to break 3:00 the next time I swim 200 back SCY).

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