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    Proposed Rule Changes for 2010 Convention

    The convention web page has links to the (many) proposed rule changes in meet and OW/LD competitions:

    http://www.usms.org/admin/conv/2010/

    In an attempt to get some feedback from our LMSC, we have made a (subjective) list of the rules that the majority of swimmers might be most interested in:

    http://www.vaswim.org/minutes/Import...posals2010.pdf

    Any opinions on these or other proposed rule changes? I'd love to hear it, and your reasons for loving or hating any of these proposals.
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    Re: Proposed Rule Changes for 2010 Convention

    I've separated out the discussions on different rule proposals into different threads. Please use these threads and new ones identifying the rule proposal being discussed so that we don't get 20 different conversations confused into one thread.
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    Re: Proposed Rule Changes for 2010 Convention

    10- Yes
    11- No
    12-13 Yes
    18- No, no, no. No.
    19- No
    48- Yes
    49- Yes
    54-5 -Yes

    L6A- Yes
    LD6- Yes
    LD36- Yes
    LD59- Yes
    LD78- Yes
    LD102- I don't know the changes.

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    Re: Proposed Rule Changes for 2010 Convention

    R 1 No Opinion
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    R 9 Yes
    R 10 No
    R 11 Yes
    R 12 Yes
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    R 17 Yes
    R 18 No
    R 19 Yes – pre-2008 suits
    R 20 Yes
    R 21 Yes
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    R 24 Yes - but only if there is a consensus that this will not create a possbility of a lack of officials to serve as referees.
    R 25 Yes
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    R 29 yes - but only if the referee is not acting in the capacity of a Stroke & Turn judge. The raised hand is not only to notify the referee of the potential for a disqualification.
    R 30 No Opinion
    R 31 Yes
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    R 33 Yes
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    R 48 No - I realize that getting three timers for splits can be a challenge but this needs to remain unchanged.
    R 49 No
    R 50 Yes
    R 51 Yes
    R 52 Yes
    R 53 No Opinion
    R 54 No - but top three would be acceptable
    R 55 No
    R 56 Yes
    R 57 Yes
    R 58 No Opinion
    R 59 Yes - this seems to be the way things are going.
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    Re: Proposed Rule Changes for 2010 Convention

    Unfortunately, I cannot make the New Delegate Orientation, but I would vote on these issues if possible. If someone doesn't mind answering a couple questions, that would be appreciated. I haven't gone through *every* pre-convention packet, so my apologies if this is covered in one of them.

    1. Does voting for these proposals take place over the course of the HOD meetings, or during the final HOD 4 meeting?

    2. The delegate certification table is open on Wed and Thurs. I am only attending on Saturday. Can my LMSC chair get my delegate check-in completed on my behalf? If yes, I will assume I can then vote on anything during HOD 4. Or, is that frowned upon since I was not attending all of the meetings?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Re: Proposed Rule Changes for 2010 Convention

    The rules proposals will be discussed in the Rules Com first. Some will be endorsed by the Rules Com and many won't. All eventually come to the floor of the HOD. If the Rules Com endorsed the proposal, a simple majority will pass it. If the Rule Com does not endorse the proposal, it takes a 2/3 (I think) majority to pass it.
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    Re: Proposed Rule Changes for 2010 Convention

    And in answer to your question: most of the rule proposals will be voted on in the last session. The budget too, probably. At least, that is my recollection from the past few years, but Betsy is a far more experienced hand than I at convention.

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    Re: Proposed Rule Changes for 2010 Convention

    Yes, the last HOD session includes Rules and Budget. One reason that Rules is last is that we wait to see what rule changes USA Swimming has made. We then decided whether to accept their changes or not.

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