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    Re: Broken Records

    Quite a few para-swimming World Records have been broken in the last few months.

    The most recent:
    Maddison Elliott (AUS, age 14), broke the S8 50m free WR at our National Age Championships a fortnight ago, then broke it again at National Open on Saturday. 30.28

    For context, old Women's S8 50 free LC WR by Chinese swimmer Shengnan Jiang, 30.85
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    Re: Broken Records

    Steffen Deibler at German Nationals last week: 100 fly 51.19
    that's faster than Phelps in London, fastest time in the world this year, 4th fastest 100 fly all time (textile era), and a German National Record.

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    Just saw a couple incredible ones:
    15 year old (yes, you read that right) Ryan Hoffer 19.55 in the 50 free.
    http://swimswam.com/ryan-hoffer-knoc...-group-record/

    14 year old professional Michael Andrew two NAG records so far at the Minneapolis Grand Prix: 48.78 in the 100 fly and 55.96 in the 100 breast.
    http://swimswam.com/michael-andrew-b...is-grand-prix/

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    Quote Originally Posted by knelson View Post
    Just saw a couple incredible ones:
    15 year old (yes, you read that right) Ryan Hoffer 19.55 in the 50 free.
    http://swimswam.com/ryan-hoffer-knoc...-group-record/
    Ryan swims on my kids' team, is a great kid and a joy to watch swim. Somewhere I read that that 19.55 would've placed him 10th at NCAAs this year!

    He was also an incredible 48.1 in the 100 fly and, were he able to swim more events, his 100 back would've been sickly fast, as well. It's amazing the difference two years makes for a 13 year old boy vs a 44 year old man. Back in November 2011 at a USAS meet, I could hang with him in the 100 fly (he was 55.3 and I was 55.5). Now, I fear I'd still be at the 75 when he was finishing. I expect you're going to see some even greater things from him over the coming years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pwb View Post
    I expect you're going to see some even greater things from him over the coming years.
    I hope so. Is he tall and/or muscular for his age?

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    Quote Originally Posted by knelson View Post
    I hope so. Is he tall and/or muscular for his age?
    It depends upon who you compare him to. Compared to Michael Andrew -- a little shorter (e.g., he's not as tall as me and I'm apparently as tall as Michael Andrew -- http://swimswam.com/michael-andrew-b...mn-grand-prix/), a little less muscular (but I've only seen pictures of Andrew). Compared to the typical 15 year old male swimmer -- taller and more muscular.
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    Re: Broken Records

    This is just mind boggling.


    Nick Thoman went 44.07 in the 100 yard back 2013 US Winter National Championships, Grevers was 44.49.
    Thoman’s split 22.47 on his 2nd 50!?!

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    1 4 4 LEDECKY Katie NCAPPV 0.72 15:15.17
    25.18
    27.37 52.55
    27.78 1:20.33
    27.93 1:48.26
    27.57 2:15.83
    28.00 2:43.83
    27.95 3:11.78
    27.79 3:39.57
    28.00 4:07.57
    27.78 4:35.35

    27.97 5:03.32
    27.69 5:31.01
    27.94 5:58.95
    27.88 6:26.83
    27.77 6:54.60
    27.90 7:22.50
    27.89 7:50.39
    27.85 8:18.24
    27.94 8:46.18
    28.04 9:14.22

    27.91 9:42.13
    27.93 10:10.06
    27.83 10:37.89
    27.87 11:05.76
    27.91 11:33.67
    27.78 12:01.45
    27.76 12:29.21
    27.91 12:57.12
    28.00 13:25.12
    27.88 13:53.00

    27.85 14:20.85
    27.76 14:48.61
    26.56 15:15.17

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    Still a big drop for her, but could we see Ledecky break the 15 minute barrier? She's just got to knock off one second per 100.

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    Katie Ledecky is amazing.

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    Granted things are likely to change after Junior Nationals, but as of today Ledecky has the fastest time in the US for a sixteen year old regardless of sex. The fastest boy is at 15:23. I bet that doesn't happen often!

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    Quote Originally Posted by knelson View Post
    Still a big drop for her, but could we see Ledecky break the 15 minute barrier? She's just got to knock off one second per 100.
    I think we might. I wouldn't bet against Katie, that's for sure.
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    Re: Broken Records

    It would have been a pretty tight finish without Katie swimming:

    LEDECKY Katie: 15:15.17
    VROOMAN Lindsay: 15:54.682 (39.51)
    SUTTON Chloe:15:57.45 (42.28)
    TWICHELL Ashley:15:59.44 (44.27)


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    Re: Broken Records

    Girls tend to mature physically much earlier than boys, and they have a tendency to be better at distance events to boot. she is near the top of her game, while boys at this age are still developing strength. Same boy in two years will be way faster.

    I remember swimming in HS, I barely beat the top girls, and sometimes did not at all. Once I went to college, I found that my times were better than Olympic women's times for the same events. That has ceased over the last 40 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Heather View Post
    Girls tend to mature physically much earlier than boys, and they have a tendency to be better at distance events to boot. she is near the top of her game, while boys at this age are still developing strength. Same boy in two years will be way faster.
    Of course, but just look up a few posts and you'll see a 15 year old boy recently swam a 19.55 50 free. There are lots of very quick teenage boys out there. And I hope Ledecky is not "near the top of her game." I'd love to see her continue to improve, but I do admit the history of the sport is littered with girls/women who could never improve on their times from their teenage years. I'm hoping the advent of professional swimming is starting to change that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knelson View Post
    Granted things are likely to change after Junior Nationals, but as of today Ledecky has the fastest time in the US for a sixteen year old regardless of sex. The fastest boy is at 15:23. I bet that doesn't happen often!
    no girl will come close to her at njo's.

    and fyi, her having the fastest time for a 16yo is the ONLY time in history it has happened.
    but to put it into perspective, her new WR in the 1500 would get herself lapped by the men (yang is just 4 years older). long course.

    she has some super amazing times and swims so far. i hope she keeps it up.
    the same medal, usually less fame, double the workout and a race that takes 30x longer than the winner of the 50.
    ld is a cruel life.

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    Re: Broken Records

    16-yo Townley Haas just went 4:17 in the 500, breaking the national record.

    http://swimswam.com/townley-haas-swi...cord-500-free/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Stevenson View Post
    16-yo Townley Haas just went 4:17 in the 500, breaking the national record.

    http://swimswam.com/townley-haas-swi...cord-500-free/
    Yeah, everyone's all excited about the 18.9 from Dressel in the 50 -- which is, of course, crazy, stupid fast and impressive -- but I'm loving the new crop of distance swimmers coming up on both the men's and women's side. I hope Mr. Haas takes a look at what Michael McBroom was able to do once he transferred to Texas
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunruh View Post
    no girl will come close to her at njo's.

    and fyi, her having the fastest time for a 16yo is the ONLY time in history it has happened.
    but to put it into perspective, her new WR in the 1500 would get herself lapped by the men (yang is just 4 years older). long course.

    she has some super amazing times and swims so far. i hope she keeps it up.
    the same medal, usually less fame, double the workout and a race that takes 30x longer than the winner of the 50.
    ld is a cruel life.
    Chris:

    Is this kid Townley Haas the same swimmer as Francis Haas or does he have a twin brother? The reason I ask is because a Francis Haas is in the psych sheets for the 1650 Free with a seed time of 15:16.67 and with this swim if he is the same person and with the time in the 500 Free should be able to break a 15:15.17, which would dispute what Steve said and make the 16 year old boy faster than the 16 year old girl. Unless he completely dies, I cannot see him not breaking 15:15.17
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    Re: Broken Records

    Wait???? 14 year old pro????

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