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    Re: Broken Records

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Thompson View Post
    The reason I ask is because a Francis Haas is in the psych sheets for the 1650 Free with a seed time of 15:16.67 and with this swim if he is the same person and with the time in the 500 Free should be able to break a 15:15.17, which would dispute would Steve said and make the 16 year old boy faster than the 16 year old girl. Unless he completely dies, I cannot see him not breaking 15:15.17
    I think Steve was saying no girl would beat Ledecky at Juniors, but we kinda knew that already...

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    the 15yo boy from my team just went 4:24 in the 500 last night and is better in the mile. he's entered in 15:25.
    i am thinking there may be several boys that go faster than her. but as of last week she was faster.
    as far as girls go.....um...her WR in the 1500 kinda puts the stamp on no female being faster.

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    Re: Broken Records

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Thompson View Post
    Is this kid Townley Haas the same swimmer as Francis Haas or does he have a twin brother?
    Both are the same person. He also goes by Chumlee and Topsy.
    The opinions expressed in the above post are mine and not those of U.S. Masters Swimming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Copeland View Post
    Both are the same person. He also goes by Chumlee and Topsy.
    Pick a name, kid!

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    Re: Broken Records

    Quote Originally Posted by sunruh View Post
    the 15yo boy from my team just went 4:24 in the 500 last night and is better in the mile. he's entered in 15:25.
    i am thinking there may be several boys that go faster than her. but as of last week she was faster.
    as far as girls go.....um...her WR in the 1500 kinda puts the stamp on no female being faster.
    I agree however in your other post you said "and fyi, her having the fastest time for a 16yo is the ONLY time in history it has happened."

    This statement would be true if you were talking about the last 45 years. Debbie Meyer in 1968 set American Records in the 200, 500, and the 1650 Free at the 1968 Short Course Nationals and she was 4 months shy of being 16. In the summer of 1968 she set World Records in the 400 Free, 800 Free, and 1500 LCM Free.

    Janet Evans did not set American Records in 500, 1000, and 1650 Free when she was 16 but set World Records in the 800 Free, and 1500 Free LCM when she was 16 years old at the 1987 Nationals in Clovis. When she set the 1500 Free World Record in 1987 at 16:00.73, her SCY time in the 1650 Free was 15:56.53 which at that time was 10 seconds from the American Record at that time which was 15:46.54 by Tiffany Cohen. If you look at the comparison of the short course and long course times it seems that you would go a lot faster than 4 seconds between the courses. I remember reading that Janet was under 5 feet and weighed 90 pounds when she swam that year and because of this in short course races she would not get the advantages on turns that other swimmers got that were bigger and taller.

    So Katie Ledecky does have company as a 16 year old as far as swimming history is concerned.
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    Re: Broken Records

    One of Mary T's 200 fly records from 1979 went down!
    http://swimswam.com/cassidy-bayer-br...-200-yard-fly/

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    Re: Broken Records

    This isn't a NAG record, but I think it deserves a mention:

    200 Yard Breaststroke
    1 Dang, Ethan 11 KING-PN 2:26.54 2:14.60! 20
    r:+0.74 30.38 1:04.29 (33.91)
    1:39.30 (35.01) 2:14.60 (35.30)

    Look at the age. According to the list on USA Swimming's site this is the eighth fastest time ever for the 11-12 age group in the 200 breast and he's 11.

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    Re: Broken Records

    Dang - he's good!

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    well a 16yo boy went faster....so no need to worry.

    and my teams 15yo went a best time, but his 15:18 didnt beat her.

    the winning time for girls....a min + behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunruh View Post
    well a 16yo boy went faster....so no need to worry
    Saw that. Looks like two 16 year-olds went faster than Ledecky (one by less than a second). They can breathe a sigh of relief now!

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    "I blame you, James!" - knelson

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    Quote Originally Posted by That Guy View Post
    I was there for that tonight, it was quite impressive. She lapped everyone. We all knew she was going to get it on the last 50 too.

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    Re: Broken Records

    Here is a link to an interview with Ledecky:
    http://swimswam.com/video-interview-...ce-strategies/
    'gotta laugh at the irony in the very first frame in the video.

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    Re: Broken Records

    It's hard not to be really impressed by Michael Andrew's swimming. I read that a DVD will be coming out soon which will cover his training.

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    Re: Broken Records

    Michael Andrew 50 free – 19.85 http://swimswam.com/michael-andrew-g...-50-yard-free/
    Michael Andrew 100 breast – 54.04 http://swimswam.com/michael-andrew-l...nks-sectional/
    Michael Andrew 200 back – 1:45.14 http://swimswam.com/michael-andrew-g...-group-record/
    Last edited by arthur; March 10th, 2014 at 12:03 PM.

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    Re: Broken Records

    Quote Originally Posted by That Guy View Post
    Should be a pair of great races between these two at NCAAs!

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    Re: Broken Records

    Ethan Dang, who I mentioned earlier in this thread, set a new NAG in the 11-12 LC 200 breast with a 2:27.88! There's a video of his race up on SwimSwam: http://swimswam.com/race-footage-eth...ke-nag-record/

    Before Dang set the record it was held by Sean Mahoney with a 2:30 swum in 2001. Dang's new record is over two seconds faster and there's no one else within four seconds of Mahoney. Just let that sink in for a bit.

    The kid is something else!

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    Re: Broken Records

    Quote Originally Posted by knelson View Post
    Ethan Dang, who I mentioned earlier in this thread, set a new NAG in the 11-12 LC 200 breast with a 2:27.88! There's a video of his race up on SwimSwam: http://swimswam.com/race-footage-eth...ke-nag-record/

    Before Dang set the record it was held by Sean Mahoney with a 2:30 swum in 2001. Dang's new record is over two seconds faster and there's no one else within four seconds of Mahoney. Just let that sink in for a bit.

    The kid is something else!
    Wow!!!
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    Re: Broken Records

    Quote Originally Posted by knelson View Post
    Ethan Dang, who I mentioned earlier in this thread, set a new NAG in the 11-12 LC 200 breast with a 2:27.88! There's a video of his race up on SwimSwam: http://swimswam.com/race-footage-eth...ke-nag-record/

    Before Dang set the record it was held by Sean Mahoney with a 2:30 swum in 2001. Dang's new record is over two seconds faster and there's no one else within four seconds of Mahoney. Just let that sink in for a bit.

    The kid is something else!
    That's pretty amazing! But what happened with Mahoney since then?

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