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    No Whining Pledge

    There is a "no whining about event order" pledge,but this is more general so I thought I'd start a new thread.
    I was thinking about the whining I had here to for done at meets and decided enough was enough.
    I resolve not to whine about not being ready for the meet(inadequate training,inadequate taper,inadequate sleep,etc.)
    I resolve to not whine about feeling sick,hurt,sore etc.
    I resolve that no matter what I think about my swim,if someone says "good swim" I will graciously thank them.
    This will probably make meets a better experience for all around me.
    Does anyone else feel a need to make a pledge?
    "To strive,to seek,to find,and not to yield" Tennyson
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    Re: No Whining Pledge

    Quote Originally Posted by Allen Stark View Post
    I resolve that no matter what I think about my swim,if someone says "good swim" I will graciously thank them.
    Great resolution, count me in.

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    Re: No Whining Pledge

    I'm in, but I confess that I am having trouble imagining what the sprinters are going to talk about in this new world order
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    Re: No Whining Pledge

    Quote Originally Posted by Allen Stark View Post
    Does anyone else feel a need to make a pledge?
    Yes, I resolve to stop whining about whiners. I'm going with "everyone's entitled to a little self-pity."

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    Re: No Whining Pledge

    I am definitely in!

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    Re: No Whining Pledge

    Me, too! (Ohhh, that's gonna be tough when the air conditions are too hot and humid for my body and it goes south on me. But, I'll keep my mouth shut, anyway. )
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    Re: No Whining Pledge

    Perfect timing, Allen! I went late to practice this morning, a short one because we have a meet Saturday. Coach said to warmup 500 and he would time me for a 50 sprint before he left. Did so. Upon hearing the time, I immediately said, "That's pitiful!" Then I stopped and realized I had almost no warmup, it was during a hard working section of our program, and, besides, I'm lucky to be still swimming anywhere near that at my age and my shape.

    Count me in!

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    Re: No Whining Pledge

    I'm in!!

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    Re: No Whining Pledge

    Quote Originally Posted by That Guy View Post
    I'm in, but I confess that I am having trouble imagining what the sprinters are going to talk about in this new world order
    I think the D folks should have their own pledge -- No Incessant Bragging about how tough they are, how they don't need rest between events, how cheap their meets are because they swim a zillion events, etc. Is this not just as tiresome as sprinter whining?

    Honestly, I figure it's an extremely rare occasion when one is actually "ready" and firing on all cylinders for a meet or when one does not have some form of injury/ache/pain. So it probably makes little sense to dwell on it excessively.

    On the other hand, I remember Jimby saying that some chatter to this effect may just be chatter, a person's way of working out nerves, and hence fairly harmless.

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    Re: No Whining Pledge

    [QUOTE=Allen Stark;261728]I resolve that no matter what I think about my swim,if someone says "good swim" I will graciously thank them.
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    Along with Chris, this is the one I need help with and pledge to control. I needed my wife to point out how unseemly whining is after being congratulated on just setting a world record. Need to stifle expressing those personal expectations.

    Does anyone remember Rick Carey's reaction after winning an Olympic gold medal-but not breaking his own world record? He was obviously very disappointed immediately after the swim and took huge rafters of grief from the press for not suppressing those emotions.

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    Re: No Whining Pledge

    Quote Originally Posted by The Fortress View Post
    I think the D folks should have their own pledge -- No Incessant Bragging about how tough they are, how they don't need rest between events, how cheap their meets are because they swim a zillion events, etc.
    It ain't bragging if it's true.

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    Re: No Whining Pledge

    Quote Originally Posted by aquageek View Post
    It ain't bragging if it's true.
    Is this another convoluted saying invented by distance swimmers?

    Logically, something can be both bragging and true. Bragging is no less annoying than whining. Next you'll be bragging about not whining. Though having just caught out pwb, I will now be tracking and reporting all distance swimmer whining. I may have to create a "Lane" for that a la Ande.

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    Re: No Whining Pledge

    Quote Originally Posted by The Fortress View Post
    Is this another convoluted saying invented by distance swimmers?

    Logically, something can be both bragging and true. Bragging is no less annoying than whining. Next you'll be bragging about not whining. Though having just caught out pwb, I will now be tracking and reporting all distance swimmer whining. I may have to create a "Lane" for that a la Ande.
    I think it was invented by Bear Bryant and I don't think he was a swimmer. But, if he was a swimmer, he would have been a distance swimmer.

    I would cut pwb a break. After all, he did go over to the whiny side of swimming for a while. He hasn't fully recovered from that and, thusly, is still shrouded in the deep and gloomy funk of wallsitteritis.

    It would be fun to take non swimmers and figure if they were swimmers what they would be. For instance, George Costanza would be a sprinter clearly, along with Steve Urkel.
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    Re: No Whining Pledge

    hmm I dunno...sprinters need to have a lot of muscle even if they have some fat on top...

    The fastest short burst swimmers in nature tend to be sleek and highly maneuverable. Whereas it seems the largest ocean going animals tend to be just well, large and fairly slow.

    I'm convinced any old fatbody can cruise along on distance swims...

    NB That's not bragging so it must be true.



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    Re: No Whining Pledge

    According to a very great song about Ted Williams, "you know it ain't a boast if you can do it."

    Overall, however, the song is not a ringing endorsement of bragging, even when true.

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    Re: No Whining Pledge

    Quote Originally Posted by aquageek View Post
    It would be fun to take non swimmers and figure if they were swimmers what they would be. For instance, George Costanza would be a sprinter clearly, along with Steve Urkel.
    [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Calvin[/ame]

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    Re: No Whining Pledge

    Quote Originally Posted by The Fortress View Post
    I think the D folks should have their own pledge -- No Incessant Bragging about how tough they are, how they don't need rest between events, how cheap their meets are because they swim a zillion events, etc. Is this not just as tiresome as sprinter whining?
    I pledge to continue randomly vomiting rainbows 'ʇxǝʇ uʍop ǝpısdn buısn, and any other meta-trolling that occurs to me.
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    Re: No Whining Pledge

    [quote=Rich Abrahams;261775]
    Quote Originally Posted by Allen Stark View Post
    I resolve that no matter what I think about my swim,if someone says "good swim" I will graciously thank them.
    QUOTE]


    Does anyone remember Rick Carey's reaction after winning an Olympic gold medal-but not breaking his own world record? He was obviously very disappointed immediately after the swim and took huge rafters of grief from the press for not suppressing those emotions.
    I remember that well.The people who gave him grief seemed pretty petty to me.
    To some others who have posted,please,no ,this is about pledges we make for ourselves,not what you think others should do.
    "To strive,to seek,to find,and not to yield" Tennyson
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    Re: No Whining Pledge

    Interesting topic which just came up at our practice recently too. Not necessarily the whining but the "negative speak" a person has with oneself. Its my impression that women are worse for this: self critical and not able to accept a compliment with arguing about its truthfulness. This type of negative thinking is hindering. I would not know how to change the negative self speak until a person recognizes it and wants to change. For me, all the preparation, for a specific meet or working on a particular event, helps me. I tell myself I have put in the work and I deserve the success.

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    Re: No Whining Pledge

    When I swam with Pitt masters at the U Pittsburgh pool, there was a morning group (up at 5 a.m.) and an evening group (practice starts at 5:30 p.m.)

    As an unconscious whiner who emitted little whimpers involuntarily, the way a person with halitosis exhales puffs of putrescent breath that he has gotten so used to that its smell seems like normal air, I was informed one day by Pitt's excellent masters coach Jen that I didn't need to be this way.

    There was, Jen told me, a legendary non-whiner who swam in the 5 a.m. practices, a fellow named Rich Durstein who never complained about anything. The man could have a spike through his head and he would not have mentioned it, nor the impact said spike would have on his ability to hold a tight interval.

    Perhaps, Jen suggested, I could try to be a little bit more like Rich Durstein.

    I am nothing if not suggestible!

    And from that day on, I determined to Durstein my way through the vicissitudes of life, shouldering no shortage of woe and handicap without so much as a micro twitch of my mouth corners!

    This was approximately five years ago.

    I have yet to meet Rich Durstein; indeed, I have come to wonder if he even exists.

    They say that if God did not exist, then Man would have had to invent him.

    Perhaps it is like this with Rich Durstein.

    I don't know.

    But I do know this: after five years of Dursteining my own way through life's teary veil, the thought of ever uttering a whine or complaint has become inconceivable to me. I am, in my own way, a model of Dursteining swimming.

    Take your pledge? No need, my good man!

    This would indicate I am capable of backsliding, of paying attention to my corporal state, my fevers and colics and headaches and cramps, and commenting about same either through soliloquy or groan!

    But I am incapable of doing either!

    Sometimes I believe that when Man felt the need to invent Rich Durstein, Man inadvertently invented me!

    If you would like help following my path, I will do my best to help. My disciple Leslie is making progress. I shall not comment on the nature of this progress. It is not the Durstein way.

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