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    Question NEED Advice: Jammers swimwear fitting

    Hi. I am a parent of 9 y.o. boy, with great swimming potential.

    For the past 3 years I've been buying jammers just based on the fit (and kept buying a size larger every year). Now, I've decided to actually check recommended sizing.

    He is very tall - 4'10". His waist is about 26 and every site states that for this waist size should be 26. I am so confused as my son is wearing size 30 and I am thinking to already buy size 32 (next season).

    I am looking for recommendation from coaches and professional swimmers! Maybe I am wrong with sizing and that potentially can be not so good for his timing. I am also planning to buy an expensive suit for his swim meets (Blueseventy NERO TX Men's Jammer) and I don't want to make a mistake in sizing.

    Please share your opinion! Thanks!!

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    Re: NEED Advice: Jammers swimwear fitting

    Order from swimoutlet.com. Order several suits, in several different sizes. Keep the one that is the most difficult to put on, as they will all stretch (a bit) over time.

    Best value for money: the TYR Tracer Lite.

    YMMV.

    My 10 year old is 5' 4" or 5' 5" and he wears a 24.
    This bush league psyche-out stuff. Laughable, man - ha ha!

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    Re: NEED Advice: Jammers swimwear fitting

    Quote Originally Posted by antonnap View Post
    Hi. I am a parent of 9 y.o. boy, with great swimming potential.

    For the past 3 years I've been buying jammers just based on the fit (and kept buying a size larger every year). Now, I've decided to actually check recommended sizing.

    He is very tall - 4'10". His waist is about 26 and every site states that for this waist size should be 26. I am so confused as my son is wearing size 30 and I am thinking to already buy size 32 (next season).

    I am looking for recommendation from coaches and professional swimmers! Maybe I am wrong with sizing and that potentially can be not so good for his timing. I am also planning to buy an expensive suit for his swim meets (Blueseventy NERO TX Men's Jammer) and I don't want to make a mistake in sizing.

    Please share your opinion! Thanks!!
    I honestly don't remember or know what my suit sizes were when I was younger. I had a good mom like you to take care of that. I'm confident there are some parents here that can be of better help. This may be a stupid question but are these adult or children size suits? You said you were buying him a men's tech suit. I'm a foot taller and 12 years older and wear a size 30-32.

    Jammers should not be baggy. I do see a lot of young kids at the pool wearing really baggy jammers. That really defeats the purpose because that creates drag. The jammer should be tight, form fitting, but not constricting. You don't want to inhibit flexability or long term comfort.

    I find the material varies depending on the fit. I will premise this by saying I only will buy speedo suits. I am 5'11 size 32 waist. If i buy a practice suit, I buy the endurance material which is polyester so it's not that stretchy. In lycra suits that I use in races, I usually wear a 30 or 28. They stretch more.

    Generally speaking people buy smaller tech suits because they think it will make them faster. I personally think some brands, like speedo, make their suits larger knowing people will do this. Tech suits are very delicate and rip very easily, so you have to be very careful with them. If you buy too small, you risk ripping it putting it on. Also know that tech suits only last a couple meets before they wear out. You usually get between 1-2 meets with a tech suit, and if you're lucky 3 or 4.

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    Re: NEED Advice: Jammers swimwear fitting

    Quote Originally Posted by JimRude View Post

    My 10 year old is 5' 4" or 5' 5" and he wears a 24.
    And I thought my son is tall!

    I love SwimOutlet and order often from them.

    I appreciate all the comments and help! I have a feeling that his current jammers are not tight enough - on the waist they seem fine, but going lower they seem to be a bit baggy especially after he swims. So, most likely with getting a right suit for him - he will improve his time.

    Thanks again!
    "concerned mom"

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    Re: NEED Advice: Jammers swimwear fitting

    Quote Originally Posted by antonnap View Post
    Hi. I am a parent of 9 y.o. boy, with great swimming potential.
    For the past 3 years I've been buying jammers just based on the fit (and kept buying a size larger every year). Now, I've decided to actually check recommended sizing.
    He is very tall - 4'10". His waist is about 26 and every site states that for this waist size should be 26. I am so confused as my son is wearing size 30 and I am thinking to already buy size 32 (next season).
    I am looking for recommendation from coaches and professional swimmers! Maybe I am wrong with sizing and that potentially can be not so good for his timing. I am also planning to buy an expensive suit for his swim meets (Blueseventy NERO TX Men's Jammer) and I don't want to make a mistake in sizing.
    Please share your opinion! Thanks!!
    Suits stretch a lot. Is his a training suit or a racing suit?

    For racing you want a tight fit
    go down a size

    For practice same size is fine
    Consider Speedo Endurance instead of lycra
    it might last longer

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    Re: NEED Advice: Jammers swimwear fitting

    Quote Originally Posted by ande View Post
    For practice same size is fine
    Consider Speedo Endurance instead of lycra
    it might last longer
    seconded. I got >1,000,000 yds out of my last endurance speedo.

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    Re: NEED Advice: Jammers swimwear fitting

    I appreciate more comments!

    I was looking for an advice on both Practice and Meet suits.
    His current practice suit is Sporti (80% Nylon/20% Lycra Spandex).
    His current meet suit (didn't have choice, ordered through team) - Speedo Aquablade #705966.

    Both seem to hold to chlorine fine, but now I truly see that I've been buying suits which are at least 2 sizes too big. With waist 26, he should be wearing now size 26 or even 24 for meets. And he is currently wearing 30. I have thought that it's pretty tight for him, looking only how it fits his waste, but after swimming, his bottom part would become saggy and now I know - it's not supposed to be like that! That most likely worsened his timing.

    So following everyone's recommendations I've ordered proper sizes for Practice and Meet. For meets I got TYR Tracer Light Jammer. This will be his first sort of high-end technical suit.

    SCY season is over, so hopefully he'll get to wear his new suits for LCY season.
    "concerned mom"

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    Re: NEED Advice: Jammers swimwear fitting

    Quote Originally Posted by antonnap View Post
    I appreciate more comments!

    I was looking for an advice on both Practice and Meet suits.
    His current practice suit is Sporti (80% Nylon/20% Lycra Spandex).
    His current meet suit (didn't have choice, ordered through team) - Speedo Aquablade #705966.

    Both seem to hold to chlorine fine, but now I truly see that I've been buying suits which are at least 2 sizes too big. With waist 26, he should be wearing now size 26 or even 24 for meets. And he is currently wearing 30. I have thought that it's pretty tight for him, looking only how it fits his waste, but after swimming, his bottom part would become saggy and now I know - it's not supposed to be like that! That most likely worsened his timing.

    So following everyone's recommendations I've ordered proper sizes for Practice and Meet. For meets I got TYR Tracer Light Jammer. This will be his first sort of high-end technical suit.

    SCY season is over, so hopefully he'll get to wear his new suits for LCY season.
    Good luck
    I've written a lot about suits in [ame="http://www.usms.org/forums/showpost.php?p=256434&postcount=1731"]Swim Faster Faster[/ame]
    plus there's many improvement suggestions for swimmers of all ages
    Last edited by ande; March 6th, 2012 at 03:31 PM.

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    Re: NEED Advice: Jammers swimwear fitting

    A Speedo endurance is all he needs. I don't see any value at all of buying a 9 year old a tech suit. Personally, I find tech suits for 10/unders to be a colossal waste of money and more about the parents than the kids. Most young kids are already ripped. Just buy a size down from what you have. I asked my daughters what the fast boys wear on their teams and they said the fastest boys all wear traditional briefs over jammers.

    If you must buy a tech suit for a 9 year old buy an aquablade about two sizes too small. They are cheap. I wear a 26 in my tech suits, although my wife says it is borderline obscene, maybe over the border.

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    Re: NEED Advice: Jammers swimwear fitting

    Quote Originally Posted by aquageek View Post
    A Speedo endurance is all he needs. I don't see any value at all of buying a 9 year old a tech suit. Personally, I find tech suits for 10/unders to be a colossal waste of money and more about the parents than the kids. Most young kids are already ripped. Just buy a size down from what you have. I asked my daughters what the fast boys wear on their teams and they said the fastest boys all wear traditional briefs over jammers.

    If you must buy a tech suit for a 9 year old buy an aquablade about two sizes too small. They are cheap. I wear a 26 in my tech suits, although my wife says it is borderline obscene, maybe over the border.
    I agree. The Speedo endurance suits are the best bang for your buck. I had one last like 2 years. I probably could have kept going with it but is was pilling.

    I'm also not sure of the value of a $200 tech suit for a kid. What is his level of competition. Each to his (or her) own though. While it may not be so important for time, it might make your kid more motivated and feel like he's really into it, and that's great. Somehow having the latest and greatest makes kids so much more interested in sports. Growing up playing lacrosse in a well to do town, I remember kids spending $600+ a season on top of the line equipment that they would outgrow the next year. It was probably a complete was of money, but I think it made everyone more interested. Better equipment, better performance in their mind.

    In my high school state tournament for swimming, the kid who won the 500 Free won by a landslide, close to 30 seconds ahead of the 2nd place kid. He was an absolutely phenomenal swimmer, and very smart. He wasn't wearing a tech suit, just a regular jammer. He wasn't even wearing a swim cap.

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    Re: NEED Advice: Jammers swimwear fitting

    Quote Originally Posted by EJB190 View Post
    I'm also not sure of the value of a $200 tech suit for a kid. What is his level of competition. Each to his (or her) own though. While it may not be so important for time, it might make your kid more motivated and feel like he's really into it, and that's great. Somehow having the latest and greatest makes kids so much more interested in sports. Growing up playing lacrosse in a well to do town, I remember kids spending $600+ a season on top of the line equipment that they would outgrow the next year. It was probably a complete was of money, but I think it made everyone more interested. Better equipment, better performance in their mind.

    In my high school state tournament for swimming, the kid who won the 500 Free won by a landslide, close to 30 seconds ahead of the 2nd place kid. He was an absolutely phenomenal swimmer, and very smart. He wasn't wearing a tech suit, just a regular jammer. He wasn't even wearing a swim cap.
    Well - I agree on spending tons of money on tech suits. That's the reason I started with a $85 one (sale + coupon) - TYR Tracer Light Jammer. The funny part it did seem to motivate my son! There is definitely a lot of psychology nowadays - kids to tend needs motivation with better things. In fact, after trying the TYR Tracer Light Jammer, my son didn't want to take it off, wanting to just walk around in it, saying that it feels tight, but amazing. As for a better practice suit, he said that his new practice suit was tighter (I went with smaller size, as recommended) and a better fit! So it helped him during practice. Whether he physically or emotionally feels better - I think parents needs to support that to their best ability.
    "concerned mom"

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    Quote Originally Posted by antonnap View Post
    Well - I agree on spending tons of money on tech suits. That's the reason I started with a $85 one (sale + coupon) - TYR Tracer Light Jammer. The funny part it did seem to motivate my son! There is definitely a lot of psychology nowadays - kids to tend needs motivation with better things. In fact, after trying the TYR Tracer Light Jammer, my son didn't want to take it off, wanting to just walk around in it, saying that it feels tight, but amazing. As for a better practice suit, he said that his new practice suit was tighter (I went with smaller size, as recommended) and a better fit! So it helped him during practice. Whether he physically or emotionally feels better - I think parents needs to support that to their best ability.
    It's interesting how that works.

    Hope the new suit helps his times. Getting rid of the bagginess should get rid of a lot of resistance.

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    Which stores for racing swimwear

    Holiday soon - Wanted to know where are good stores in LA or San Fran or Vegas that I can take 14 and 16 yr old to buy and be fitted for technical racing suits
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    Holiday soon - Wanted to know where are good stores in LA or San Fran or Vegas that I can take 14 and 16 yr old to buy and be fitted for technical racing suits
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    I personally buy ONLINE - saves you a lot. You can still measure your kids, but get a much better deal online.

    Generally each swim team has a set store, which comes twice a year to measure kids for swim suits.

    Otherwise check these:
    - Transports in Oakland, CA
    - NorCal Swim Shop in Walnut Creek, CA
    - Swim 2000 in Las Vegas, NV
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    Re: Which stores for racing swimwear

    Quote Originally Posted by MRKAR View Post
    Holiday soon - Wanted to know where are good stores in LA or San Fran or Vegas that I can take 14 and 16 yr old to buy and be fitted for technical racing suits
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    I'm getting the sneaky feeling this thread may actually be just an "Infomercial" for the tech suit manufacturers/dealers.

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    Re: NEED Advice: Jammers swimwear fitting

    Quote Originally Posted by antonnap View Post
    Hi. I am a parent of 9 y.o. boy, with great swimming potential.
    For the past 3 years I've been buying jammers just based on the fit (and kept buying a size larger every year). Now, I've decided to actually check recommended sizing.
    He is very tall - 4'10". His waist is about 26 and every site states that for this waist size should be 26. I am so confused as my son is wearing size 30 and I am thinking to already buy size 32 (next season).
    I am looking for recommendation from coaches and professional swimmers! Maybe I am wrong with sizing and that potentially can be not so good for his timing. I am also planning to buy an expensive suit for his swim meets (Blueseventy NERO TX Men's Jammer) and I don't want to make a mistake in sizing. Please share your opinion! Thanks!!
    Those suits stretch a lot. he should probably wear a 24 or 26 racing suit.

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    Re: NEED Advice: Jammers swimwear fitting

    Quote Originally Posted by ande View Post
    Those suits stretch a lot. he should probably wear a 24 or 26 racing suit.
    I did get size 26! And it takes me 15 minutes to put it on him
    He is complaining a bit, but when it's on, he feels pretty good!
    I am happy to say that he greatly improved all of his times. With each meet (every 2 weeks), he does better and better. Most of his times are BB, very close to A, so he is now trying to reach Gold time! Keeping my fingers crossed.
    "concerned mom"

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    Re: Which stores for racing swimwear

    Is the suit for a boy or girl? If for a boy measure 2 inches below the belly button. You buy the suit 1 or 2 sizes smaller for racing. If you are training you buy what you measure.

    Quote Originally Posted by MRKAR View Post
    Holiday soon - Wanted to know where are good stores in LA or San Fran or Vegas that I can take 14 and 16 yr old to buy and be fitted for technical racing suits
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    Re: Which stores for racing swimwear

    Quote Originally Posted by geochuck View Post
    Is the suit for a boy or girl? If for a boy measure 2 inches below the belly button. You buy the suit 1 or 2 sizes smaller for racing. If you are training you buy what you measure.
    I had heard you shouldn't downsize with the Speedo Fastskin3.I tried one on and that is really true.I wear a 30 in a B-70 and tried a 31 in the Fastskin3 and it wouldn't fit 1/2 way up my thighs.
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    Re: Which stores for racing swimwear

    Quote Originally Posted by Allen Stark View Post
    I had heard you shouldn't downsize with the Speedo Fastskin3.I tried one on and that is really true.I wear a 30 in a B-70 and tried a 31 in the Fastskin3 and it wouldn't fit 1/2 way up my thighs.
    I remember seeing a guy at Canadian Nats trying to put on a Fastskin3 suit in the lockerroom. He had on these "cute" little cotton gloves, struggling to inch the suit up his legs little by little. I came in, got undressed, threw my Yingfa on, got semi-redressed, and left. The guy barely got the suit another inch or two in the time it took me to go in and out. As I was leaving, I asked him..."is it really worth it?" He replied with "Not at all!" and smiled.
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