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    2013 Pan American Masters Swimming Championships

    2013 Pan American Masters Swimming Championships
    Selby Aquatic Center, Sarasota, Florida
    June 5 - 13, 2013

    MEET INFO


    Wed June 5
    800 freestyle

    Thu June 6
    400 IM
    50 freestyle

    Fri June 7
    200 backstroke
    100 freestyle

    Sat June 8
    100 backstroke
    50 butterfly
    200 freestyle

    Sun June 9
    200 freestyle relay (men’s, women’s, mixed)
    200 medley relay (men’s, women’s, mixed)
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    Mon June 10
    200 breaststroke
    100 butterfly
    50 backstroke

    Tue June 11
    200 IM
    50 breaststroke
    200 butterfly

    Wed June 12
    100 breaststroke
    400 freestyle

    Thu June 13
    3K and 1K open water swims


    Swimsuit Regulations

    FINA rules as modified for Masters competition and as printed in the latest edition of the FINA Handbook will govern all aquatic disciplines at the V UANA Pan American Masters Championships. It is the responsibility of each competitor to be familiar with these rules. FINA rules and regulations may be found at fina.org.


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    Re: 2013 Pan American Masters Swimming Championships

    I wanted to go to this meet,but it is just too long with too much weekday time.I can't take that much time off work.If it had started Sat and ended Sun a week later it would have been more doable.
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    Re: 2013 Pan American Masters Swimming Championships

    No 1500 = not a worthy meet. How would the rest of you like it if a major meet decided the 50 Free was not worth contesting?

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    Re: 2013 Pan American Masters Swimming Championships

    Quote Originally Posted by Fresnoid View Post
    No 1500 = not a worthy meet. How would the rest of you like it if a major meet decided the 50 Free was not worth contesting?
    As a distance guy, Iíd be fine if a major meet decided the 50 Free was not worth contesting.

    I also understand why the 1500 isnít contested at Masters continental and world championships. At a big meet the 800ís can take 12-14 hours; it would be difficult to get an event host to staff an event that took 24 or more hours to complete. And, I wouldnít want to be the guy in a heat that went off at 4:00 AM.

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    Re: 2013 Pan American Masters Swimming Championships

    exactly

    all you have to do is go back to my posts from italy last year.

    i climbed onto the blocks for my 800m at 7:35pm and 100 guys in front of me had been DNS with on deck seating.
    and this was a 10 lane pool!!! in a typical 8 lane pool that is 13 heats of 11 -14min each.
    i wasnt even close to being in the last seeded heat (but now i would be! )
    oh yeah, and this was *just* mens!!! women had their own pool.
    of course it was the biggest meet ever held by almost 50% too
    when the host country brings in as many entries as the largest meet and then you add in the rest of the world...it was a bit much

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    Re: 2013 Pan American Masters Swimming Championships

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Copeland View Post
    I also understand why the 1500 isn’t contested at Masters continental and world championships. At a big meet the 800’s can take 12-14 hours; it would be difficult to get an event host to staff an event that took 24 or more hours to complete.
    I understand, too. On the other hand, they could have a 1500 and just cap the number of entries.

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    Re: 2013 Pan American Masters Swimming Championships

    Quote Originally Posted by sunruh View Post
    exactly

    all you have to do is go back to my posts from italy last year.

    i climbed onto the blocks for my 800m at 7:35pm and 100 guys in front of me had been DNS with on deck seating.
    For that meet, DNS means they really did swim, but no official time was posted because they were slower than the qualifying time, right?

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    Re: 2013 Pan American Masters Swimming Championships

    Well, I'm going. But I live in Florida, and decided that it was less expensive to go to Sarasota (for me) than to fly to Indianapolis. I'm excited, and hope to be able to do some relays! I LOVE relays!! My biggest concern is how do I train/taper to make sure that I swim my 200 free fast on Saturday, and am not totally out of shape for the 100 breast & 400 free by the next Wednesday?
    BTW, Siesta Keys is beautiful place to have a holiday, if you can afford the time off.

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    Re: 2013 Pan American Masters Swimming Championships

    Quote Originally Posted by Fresnoid View Post
    For that meet, DNS means they really did swim, but no official time was posted because they were slower than the qualifying time, right?
    did not start/show

    no, the dozens and dozens of those that didnt meet the qual time were given another code. in my age group alone it averaged 45-60 per event!

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    Re: 2013 Pan American Masters Swimming Championships

    Quote Originally Posted by sunruh View Post
    did not start/show

    no, the dozens and dozens of those that didnt meet the qual time were given another code. in my age group alone it averaged 45-60 per event!
    Folks who don't swim fast enough to make the qualifying times are given an NT (No Time) in the results.

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    Re: 2013 Pan American Masters Swimming Championships

    So you've got those who didn't swim: DNS
    And those who swam too much: NT

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    Re: 2013 Pan American Masters Swimming Championships

    I'm glad to see that FINA General Rule 5.2 excludes transparent suits for Masters, but does anyone know if they're enforcing the swim cap rule that allows a logo only on one side? And do our suits need the bar-code thingy on the back?

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    Re: 2013 Pan American Masters Swimming Championships

    hmmm not sure on that. i wore the USMS cap in italy. nothing was mentioned to me about that.

    HOWEVER! i was almost DQ'd from climbing out of the pool after the 100 free by going over the wall next to the blocks.
    tsk tsk tsk stupid american. go 5 lanes over to the ladder.
    yes, the meet ref came over to me and told me to never do it again or i will be dq'd.

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    Re: 2013 Pan American Masters Swimming Championships

    Quote Originally Posted by sunruh View Post
    HOWEVER! i was almost DQ'd from climbing out of the pool after the 100 free by going over the wall next to the blocks.
    tsk tsk tsk stupid american. go 5 lanes over to the ladder.
    yes, the meet ref came over to me and told me to never do it again or i will be dq'd.
    Just read that this is how they are going to do it at USMS Nationals in Indy, too. I suppose with "fly-over" starts if you are too pokey getting out you risk triggering the pad when you exit the pool, so the solution is to make everyone exit at the side of the pool.

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    Re: 2013 Pan American Masters Swimming Championships

    The only thing our rulebook states about pool exits is during a relay. If the finished leg swimmer is unable to get out in time, they should hang on to the line out of the way the racing and equipment until the heat is done. Other than that, I didn't notice anything requiring exiting at the side ladder.

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    Re: 2013 Pan American Masters Swimming Championships

    I got a dual confirmed DQ in the 50 Free at our state meet(Indiana) for exiting the pool incorrectly during Fly-over starts. Most people didn't even know we were doing them the first day and the confusion cost more time than if they'd done regular starts.
    I'm wondering where in the rule book it states that you can get deeked for doing this? I guess it might qualify under "delay of meet." In the meantime I'm the only idiot I know of who has been deeked in the 50 free for something other than a false start. Maybe I should appear as a special guest on the Lochte show.
    HTFU!

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    Re: 2013 Pan American Masters Swimming Championships

    I was confused about the directions in the email about Nationals. So we wait in the water after we finish for everyone in the heat to be done, then we exit on the side and then the next heat starts? Or does the next heat start and then we exit? The latter makes more sense for "fly over" but seems scarier to me.
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    Re: 2013 Pan American Masters Swimming Championships

    Quote Originally Posted by ekw View Post
    Or does the next heat start and then we exit?
    Yes. The idea being that this saves time since you can start the next heat before everyone (anyone, technically) has cleared the water.

    So I guess if you blow away your heat in the 1650 be prepared to hang out in your lane for a while since you won't be allowed to leave the water until everyone in your heat has finished swimming.

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    Re: 2013 Pan American Masters Swimming Championships

    At the end of a race I am frequently not thinking clearly.My natural instinct is to pull myself out of the pool when the heat is done.That seems a silly thing to get DQd for,especially as it doesn't slow the meet down.
    With the flyover starts in a 25 yd pool it seems that it would be pretty easy for some swimmers to not have time to get out of the way before the next swimmer is coming back.It also seems pretty easy for someone to accidently kick the touch pad on their way to the side.
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    Re: 2013 Pan American Masters Swimming Championships

    Quote Originally Posted by Allen Stark View Post
    That seems a silly thing to get DQd for
    I have a hard time believing they would actually DQ anyone for this, but I do think we'll be hearing the starter say "swimmers, please stay in the water" a lot the first day or so until everyone starts getting the idea.

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