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    2014 Worlds

    Order of events posted -- http://finamasters2014.org/schedule.aspx

    My assessment / notes:
    • No 1500
    • Distance swimmers better bring lots of cash -- 800 on August 3rd, 400 on August 9th, 3KM OW on August 10th
    • IMers should be happy -- 400 IM on Tuesday, 200 IM on Wednesday
    • Relay day smack in the middle on Thursday


    My bang for the buck will be showing up Tuesday and Wednesday to grab 4-6 events, depending upon entry limits.
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    Re: 2014 Worlds

    If I'm remembering correctly, this was the same order of events for both Stanford and Italy, and there was a 5-event limit.

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    Re: 2014 Worlds

    Yes, it is the same schedule and there is a 5 event limit. There is also a limit of 2 events per day. General rules are posted under the Competition tab, Disciplines, Swimming at the event website:
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    Re: 2014 Worlds

    PWB,
    do you know now many DAYS it would take if there was a 1500?

    a single 10 lane pool?

    holy long days batman!!!

    there were 2 x 10 lane pools in italy and the meet went to 11pm each night.

    granted i bet that 6000 italians dont show up either.

    imagine 254 heats of the mens 100 free. oh wait i was there for that!
    but put 180 womens heats before that!
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    Re: 2014 Worlds

    There is never a 1500 at Worlds. It WOULD take days...

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    Oh, dear, the venue is described as Located next to Parc Jean-Drapeau metro station, the Aquatic Complex includes one 10 lane main competition pool, one recreational pool with 8 lanes as well as a world class diving tank. The diving and swimming events will take place at Parc Jean-Drapeau Aquatic Complex.
    Since the diving is taking place at the same time as swimming events, I assume the 10 lane pool will be used for competition and the 8 lane for warm-up/warm-down. Riccione had two competition pools and two warm-up/warm-down pools and even that was crowded. This is going to be very crowded and look for loooooong days.
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    Re: 2014 Worlds

    Quote Originally Posted by MPohlmann View Post
    ... there is a 5 event limit. There is also a limit of 2 events per day.
    That's cool. If I make it out there, I can find 5 events of happiness between Monday and Wednesday.

    Quote Originally Posted by MPohlmann View Post
    Oh, dear, the venue is described as Located next to Parc Jean-Drapeau metro station, the Aquatic Complex includes one 10 lane main competition pool, one recreational pool with 8 lanes as well as a world class diving tank. The diving and swimming events will take place at Parc Jean-Drapeau Aquatic Complex.
    Since the diving is taking place at the same time as swimming events, I assume the 10 lane pool will be used for competition and the 8 lane for warm-up/warm-down. Riccione had two competition pools and two warm-up/warm-down pools and even that was crowded. This is going to be very crowded and look for loooooong days.
    They held the 'real' World Championships at this facility a few years back (2005). I doubt this will be as big as Riccione or Stanford, but, yes, the days will be long. Maybe they'll open up the Olympic pool across town and offer a shuttle service for warm-up / warm-down? Even better, if the meet gets too large, run a two pool scenario between Jean Drapeau and the Olympic Pool like they did at Worlds a few years ago, alternating men and women by pool by day.
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    Re: 2014 Worlds

    Quote Originally Posted by MPohlmann View Post
    Since the diving is taking place at the same time as swimming events, I assume the 10 lane pool will be used for competition and the 8 lane for warm-up/warm-down.
    I wonder about that, too. I would have assumed both pools would be used for competition. In fact I thought that was a requirement for Worlds, but I don't see any other pool space available in the complex if the dive tank is being used for diving at the same time. Here's the website for the Parc Jean-Drapeau Aquatic Complex, by the way: http://www.parcjeandrapeau.com/en/at...uatic-complex/

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    Quote Originally Posted by MPohlmann View Post
    Oh, dear, the venue is described as Located next to Parc Jean-Drapeau metro station, the Aquatic Complex includes one 10 lane main competition pool, one recreational pool with 8 lanes as well as a world class diving tank. The diving and swimming events will take place at Parc Jean-Drapeau Aquatic Complex.
    Since the diving is taking place at the same time as swimming events, I assume the 10 lane pool will be used for competition and the 8 lane for warm-up/warm-down. Riccione had two competition pools and two warm-up/warm-down pools and even that was crowded. This is going to be very crowded and look for loooooong days.
    I went to the web site for Worlds and looked at the venues pull down. They show three venues with pools including the Montreal Olympic venue. So, my guess is that diving will be in one venue and swimming in another. It would not really be possible to hold swimming and diving at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    I went to the web site for Worlds and looked at the venues pull down. They show three venues with pools including the Montreal Olympic venue. So, my guess is that diving will be in one venue and swimming in another. It would not really be possible to hold swimming and diving at the same time.
    CORRECTION - I just looked again, and the Olympic venue will be used for water polo and the Claude-Robillard Sports Complex will be used for water polo and synchro. So the swim venue will be used for diving too. My error!

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    Re: 2014 Worlds

    http://www.parcjeandrapeau.com/en/at...omplex/photos/

    If I did this right, you can see a photo of all three pools. The diving well is at the opposite end from the competition pool, still it would be much better if the diving well was open for warm up/down as well.



    Below might be a picture of the pools or computer gibberish (I am not too computer savy - but you all could tell)
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    There are nine pictures. Click on the bottom left one to see an aerial view of the complex.

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    Re: 2014 Worlds

    I was so concerned about the venue for swimming at 2014 Worlds that I sent an email to the CEO, Pierre Cloutier. He responded very quickly with the following:

    We are in the process of negotiating for 2 10 lane 50m to be installed at Parc Jean Drapeau. This is our 1st option. We will consider other options if this doesn’t materialize but we will not compete in only 1 pool for you and for us. It makes it long for swimmers but extra long for organizers and I’m not interested to be there till midnight every day.
    Keep checking our website or our Facebook for updates.

    Thanks for passing the word around. People that came to see our booth in Italy were told about the other pools. It’s a question of weeks before it’s officially finalized.


    Have a great day.

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    i hope they get 2 pools!!!

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    Re: 2014 Worlds

    Quote Originally Posted by MPohlmann View Post
    I was so concerned about the venue for swimming at 2014 Worlds that I sent an email to the CEO, Pierre Cloutier. He responded very quickly with the following:

    We are in the process of negotiating for 2 10 lane 50m to be installed at Parc Jean Drapeau. This is our 1st option. We will consider other options if this doesn’t materialize but we will not compete in only 1 pool for you and for us. It makes it long for swimmers but extra long for organizers and I’m not interested to be there till midnight every day.
    Keep checking our website or our Facebook for updates.

    Thanks for passing the word around. People that came to see our booth in Italy were told about the other pools. It’s a question of weeks before it’s officially finalized.


    Have a great day.

    Pierre
    This is great news. It looks from the aerial shots like there's a fair amount of green space around the complex to put another pool.

    My daughter's up there this week competing at their Canada Cup meet, so I hope to get her full report on the pool and the facilities in general. My wife confirmed the metro stop drops you right at the pool and a weekly unlimited pass was like $42, so that opens up a lot of Montreal from a lodging perspective.
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    Re: 2014 Worlds

    pwb, then you just do the first 3 days or the last 3 days. Go down to College Park for the 1500!
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    Re: 2014 Worlds

    Someone just asked me about using yards times to qualify for Worlds. The meet information says to add 2% to your short course meters time to get a long course meters time but doesn't mention using yards times (probably because this is the only country in the world that swims yards). Does anyone in-the-know have any info about qualifying using a yards time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 200free View Post
    Does anyone in-the-know have any info about qualifying using a yards time?
    I'd suggest you reach out to the organizers directly. I would think they'd want to have their closest proximity neighbors attend and, if they offer an SCM->LCM conversion factor, they can create an SCY->LCM factor. Alternately, find a meet this fall in SCM and get the times there!
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    I didn't think you needed qualifying cut times for Worlds.
    HTFU!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobinator View Post
    I didn't think you needed qualifying cut times for Worlds.
    Essentially you don't. If you miss the time standard your time won't show up in the results for that event. It's almost like you never swam the event even though you did. I forget now whether your seed time needs to be under the qualifying standard or not.

    If you don't have any metric swims I'd suggest using an online converter like the one at Swimming World:
    http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com...onversions.asp

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