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    Re: David Marsh - Consultant For Israeli Swimming

    i guess no one in US/Israel has heard of the internet ! ... really ! ... though "Secret Sauce" itself could not be sent over the internet ... maybe the recipe could ... i not sure the "The Swim Police" will be able to prevent the transfer of the "Secret Sauce"
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    Oh my chicken little the sky is falling ......

    Free enterprise. Capitalism. Did not think there were laws against that. Plus new opportunity to coach new people in new place. Maybe open up more boarders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjr View Post
    Maybe open up more boarders.
    Boarders??? borders? boor de jour! bored errrrr
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjr View Post
    Oh my chicken little the sky is falling ......

    Free enterprise. Capitalism. Did not think there were laws against that. Plus new opportunity to coach new people in new place. Maybe open up more boarders.

    Israel should have to make its own secret sauce, not try to steal ours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BraunMan View Post
    Israel should have to make its own secret sauce, not try to steal ours.
    Excellent observation. Except we've already determined that: 1) there is no sauce that makes USA Swimming great (that's the Russian's bag), 2) our success isn't a secret (unless you've spent the past 12 years under a rock), and 3) Israel is publicly hiring Coach Marsh, so if they are stealing then they are the most inept thieves in modern aquatics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BraunMan View Post
    Israel should have to make its own secret sauce, not try to steal ours.
    Did we invent the secret sauce?
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    Re: David Marsh - Consultant For Israeli Swimming

    The main issue is you have a USA Swimming Coach willing to sell the secret of US success to another country. Where does it end?

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    answer: When we stop feeding the troll
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    Mr. Marsh is being HIRED as their COACH, not serving as a consultant. So, he is going to COACH to the best of his ability and turn out some good swimmers, just like he has done at other places.

    How is this action any different than a person leaving company A to work at company B? Typically people seek out better benefits, better work environment, and of course better pay.

    Capitalism and self preservation. Plain and simple
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    Re: David Marsh - Consultant For Israeli Swimming

    Sorry to bump this thread, but IT'S HAPPENING!

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    Re: David Marsh - Consultant For Israeli Swimming

    The secret sauce has already been given away! That means that David Marsh and whatever he's doing is no longer news.

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    Re: David Marsh - Consultant For Israeli Swimming

    Quote Originally Posted by BobBruce View Post
    The secret sauce has already been given away! That means that David Marsh and whatever he's doing is no longer news.
    Not true. We have to keep aspects about what makes US superior in the pool within the USA.

    Japanese guy just went 2:06.6 Long Course Meters 200 Breaststroke.

    We have reason to be concerned about losing our dominance in world swimming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BraunMan View Post
    Not true. We have to keep aspects about what makes US superior in the pool within the USA.

    Japanese guy just went 2:06.6 Long Course Meters 200 Breaststroke.

    We have reason to be concerned about losing our dominance in world swimming.
    Japan has less interaction with American coaching than most countries. I'd love some Japanese secret sauce for my breaststroke.I just saw the video for that record and it was impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allen Stark View Post
    Japan has less interaction with American coaching than most countries. I'd love some Japanese secret sauce for my breaststroke.I just saw the video for that record and it was impressive.
    Its just nuts. First Kitajima, then this guy. What are they doing/growing over there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BraunMan View Post
    Its just nuts. First Kitajima, then this guy. What are they doing/growing over there?
    Man, we gotta hire us some Japanese coaches and get some of their secret sushi.

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    Re: David Marsh - Consultant For Israeli Swimming

    Quote Originally Posted by pwb View Post
    Man, we gotta hire us some Japanese coaches and get some of their secret sushi.
    Actually, I think it's the Yum Yum sauce.
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    Re: David Marsh - Consultant For Israeli Swimming

    Seems like they have had the secret YumYum sauce for awhile.

    Other 200M Breastsroke record for Japanese swimmers:

    2:45.0 Japan Yoshiyuki Tsuruta July 27, 1929 Kyoto, Japan
    2:36.6 Japan Masaru Furukawa April 10, 1954 Tokyo, Japan
    2:35.4 Japan Masaru Furukawa April 10, 1954 Tokyo, Japan
    2:35.2 Japan Mamoru Tanaka September 17, 1954 Tokyo, Japan
    2:33.7 Japan Masaru Furukawa August 5, 1955 Tokyo, Japan
    2:31.0 Japan Masaru Furukawa October 1, 1955 Tokyo, Japan

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    Re: David Marsh - Consultant For Israeli Swimming

    Quote Originally Posted by fatboy View Post
    Seems like they have had the secret YumYum sauce for awhile.

    Other 200M Breastsroke record for Japanese swimmers:

    2:45.0 Japan Yoshiyuki Tsuruta July 27, 1929 Kyoto, Japan
    2:36.6 Japan Masaru Furukawa April 10, 1954 Tokyo, Japan
    2:35.4 Japan Masaru Furukawa April 10, 1954 Tokyo, Japan
    2:35.2 Japan Mamoru Tanaka September 17, 1954 Tokyo, Japan
    2:33.7 Japan Masaru Furukawa August 5, 1955 Tokyo, Japan
    2:31.0 Japan Masaru Furukawa October 1, 1955 Tokyo, Japan

    We had the secret sauce with Mike Barrowman for 200 breast, but lost it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BraunMan View Post
    We had the secret sauce with Mike Barrowman for 200 breast, but lost it.
    Josef Nagy had the secret sauce for Barrowman and brought it to the US.

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    Re: David Marsh - Consultant For Israeli Swimming

    Quote Originally Posted by Allen Stark View Post
    Josef Nagy had the secret sauce for Barrowman and brought it to the US.
    Way too many people with way too much time on their hands, here! Seems other US sports have imported secret sauces from other countries, with mixed success. Seems like one concerned citizen has taken the Trump playbook to the pool. Glad people are having fun.

    As a kid, I swam with Peter Daland of the LA Athletic Club; Peter was the USC coach. As a 14 year old, I had the honor of swimming with Murray Rose and Jon Konrad, two Aussies who were dominant in the freestyle world, holding every record from 200-1500m. Peter was importing the sauce. Other coaches have done that for a long time, including Marsh at Auburn (where I've been on faculty since 1985 and have officiated varsity and age group meets since for 20+ years).

    The secret of Marsh's success was getting all swimmers - male and female, sprinters, distance, mid-distance, all strokes - ready to perform PRs at championship meets. Routinely had 90% or more PRs. That why the banners in my home pool. Not some special training protocol or drill. He had good assistant coaches working with him and good facilities. He brought in top swim talent from around the world and they all made each other better. If there is one place that globalization can be said to have a positive impact, it is in the pool. We bring in the best talent from around the world to train at our universities and it raises the bar for everyone. Not that different from Silicon Valley.

    Shutting the borders, cooking our secret sauces in isolation ... that is what the East Germans did, what the Russians did.

    I have no problem being proud for our swimmers at international competitions.

    As for Sergio, he is now coaching at Auburn. I have not yet gotten to know him well, but he seems like a genuinely nice guy and will have a positive impact on all of our swimmers, US citizens and international athletes. I'm hoping he can fix my breastroke.

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