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    I entered the 200 IM at the 2005 Short course American

    I entered the 200 IM at the 2005 Short Course American Championships in Austin

    http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache...hl=en&ie=UTF-8

    be sure you cheer for the 41 year old guy racing all the whipper snappers

    here's where you can look at the psyche sheet
    http://www.utexas.edu/longhornaquati...ostedMeets.htm

    here's where you can follow the results:
    http://www.tsc.utexas.edu/events/2005ASCC/2005ASCC.html
    Last edited by ande; March 21st, 2005 at 12:58 PM.

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    Good luck. I want to swim at USS meets but I rather do it when I can get decent times. I don't want to USS meet when I would do a 2:18 in the 200 Yard IM. When I get my 200 IM and 200 fly under 2:10, then I will look into doing USS meets. Have fun at the meet and do the best that you can do.

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    hey there,

    I sometimes enter USS meets out of convenience
    If they are in austin I don't have to travel real far
    It's fun to race kids half my age or more

    a few weeks ago I went 2:01.8 in the 200 IM
    25 minutes before that I swam a 4:58 500 free

    here's the splits
    25.6 31.8 35.4 28.9
    effort wise I took the race out really easy, and
    tried to finish strong

    I'm going to be much more aggressive this next week.
    try to knock a second off the fly and
    two seconds off the back

    plus I'm going to taper till the race arrives
    so we'll see how it goes

    I feel pretty certain I'll be under 2:00 and
    beat my 200 IM time from 1995

    ande

    Originally posted by tjrpatt
    Good luck. I want to swim at USS meets but I rather do it when I can get decent times. I don't want to USS meet when I would do a 2:18 in the 200 Yard IM. When I get my 200 IM and 200 fly under 2:10, then I will look into doing USS meets. Have fun at the meet and do the best that you can do.

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    [QUOTE]Originally posted by ande
    [B]hey there,

    I sometimes enter USS meets out of convenience
    If they are in austin I don't have to travel real far
    It's fun to race kids half my age or more

    a few weeks ago I went 2:01.8 in the 200 IM
    25 minutes before that I swam a 4:58 500 free

    here's the splits
    25.6 31.8 35.4 28.9
    effort wise I took the race out really easy, and
    tried to finish strong

    You have some really good times there. good splits too. I am hoping by next year I can do those kind of times. I quit swimming in 1997 and started again in 2002. I started masters meets in 2004. It is just taking forever for me to get in any kind of shape but I will take it one meet at a time and I will get there eventually. But, it is fun to do swim meets again.

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    Ande, are you referring your times to meters(long or short course?) or yards?I am just curious,'cause if those are meters I am really jealous ...
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    hi hooked,

    the 2:01 is yards.

    in october 2004 I did go

    2:15.0 in the 200 short course meter IM and
    in july 2004 I went

    2:18.0 in the 200 long course meter IM
    the long course race really hurt, I took the fly out too hard and
    used my legs too much, the breast hurt and free was agonizing

    ande

    Originally posted by hooked-on-swimming
    Ande, are you referring your times to meters(long or short course?) or yards?I am just curious,'cause if those are meters I am really jealous ...
    Last edited by ande; February 24th, 2005 at 02:55 PM.

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    The cut is 1:59. They don't require proof of entry time?

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    the meet information doc

    http://www.utexas.edu/longhornaquati...SCMeetInfo.pdf

    under Eligibility: states
    "Swimmers must meet the qualifying time standards."

    though it was years ago,
    I've been faster than 1:59.12 in my career,
    I hope I'll beat the qualifying time.

    We'll know in a week.

    Ande


    my plans are to:

    rest this coming week and lose a few pounds,

    hit the race fresh instead of just after a 500 fr

    shave my arms,

    wear a fast skin body suit

    take the race out a little harder and much faster
    than the last time I swam it.

    go fast and relaxed on fly

    dolphin kick further, work the back, breathe a lot,

    hit a fast Back to Breast turn

    go for it on breast, excellent form, really push it,
    AIM for 34.9 or better on the breast split

    then sprint the free with what ever is left.
    Drive the kick.


    Originally posted by Fritz
    The cut is 1:59. They don't require proof of entry time?

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    I was just wondering what kind of a meet the American Short Course Championships are. USA Swimming when it was known as USS Swimming had the last traditional Short Course Yard National Championships in March of 1990. I remember because it was in Nashville and I remember Matt Biondi being interviewed on TV after he won the 100 Yard Free saying he did not agree with the decision to have all future Nationals Long Course. The only years they would not have it SC was after 1972 in Olympic years. So 1976 thru 1988 they had substituted the Short Couse for Long Course. I noticed that this meet is always in Austin Texas so it seems to me its like a local invitational for people who want to swim in a SCY National Championship even though its not considered a National Championship. I know that the NCAA Championships is the only place we get to see SCY swims from the best swimmers except in Olympic years when its held SCM.
    I think its a good idea but how many of the top swimmers will be there if you have the NCAA meet, US Open, and World Championship Trials all coming up in the next 6 weeks.
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    you may be able to access to the schedule at
    http://www.utexas.edu/longhornaquati...ostedMeets.htm

    I know michael phelps, Brendan Hansen and Aaron Peirsol will be there. Probably Ian Crocker, Nate Dusing, and Neil Walker as well.

    I think many college swimmers will be there trying to make last chance time standards

    ande

    Originally posted by Frank Thompson
    I was just wondering what kind of a meet the American Short Course Championships are. USA Swimming when it was known as USS Swimming had the last traditional Short Course Yard National Championships in March of 1990. I remember because it was in Nashville and I remember Matt Biondi being interviewed on TV after he won the 100 Yard Free saying he did not agree with the decision to have all future Nationals Long Course. The only years they would not have it SC was after 1972 in Olympic years. So 1976 thru 1988 they had substituted the Short Couse for Long Course. I noticed that this meet is always in Austin Texas so it seems to me its like a local invitational for people who want to swim in a SCY National Championship even though its not considered a National Championship. I know that the NCAA Championships is the only place we get to see SCY swims from the best swimmers except in Olympic years when its held SCM.
    I think its a good idea but how many of the top swimmers will be there if you have the NCAA meet, US Open, and World Championship Trials all coming up in the next 6 weeks.

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    Skip, just because the meet is called “2005 American Short Course Championships” does not make it a USA-S national event. The event is a sanctioned event of the South Texas LSC. It is not recognized as a USA-Swimming championship event.

    The meet advertises that time can be used for swimmers attempting to make NCAA cuts, so you may see some college swimmers trying to make NCAA cuts. I’m interested to see what kind of turn out the meet has, since it is going up against the USA Swimming Sectionals at Texas A&M, on the same weekend.

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    My husband and I looked at the last posted results from I think 2002 on-line. While there were Olympians and NCAA champions there, there were also "not-so-great" swimmers. My husband and I wouldn't have come close to the finals or consols but we wouldn't have finished last either... so the qualifying times can't be too fast.
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    Ande, 2:15 for scm and 2:18 for lcm is still awesome.I cannot do that yet.I would not like to swim next to you ...my ego would be hurt getting beat by a guy almost twice my age :-))).But I would love to watch you swim.It must look pretty impressive(yes, these times are impressive to me, but hey, I have only been swimming for 7 months).
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    this update just arrived

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    TXLA Schedule February 28 - March 6
    Olympians to Compete at the Lee and Joe Jamail Texas Swimming Center March 3-5
    Come see Olympians Michael Phelps, Natalie Coughlin, Aaron Peirsol, Brendan Hansen, and Ian Crocker compete against each other and top NCAA swimmers at the American Short Course Championships March 3-5 at the Jamail Texas Swimming Center.

    Other Olympians competing in this trials and finals swimming event include Nate Dusing, Neil Walker, Klete Keller, Mark Gangloff, and Rhi Jeffery.

    Preliminaries begin at 9 AM each day and finals begin at 6:30 PM. Admission is free. Parking is available in the garages on the corner of Trinity and MLK and Brazos and MLK.

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    Training Update:

    I did not train Saturday or Sunday.

    Monday Feb 28
    I arrived late this morning (on purpose)

    Did a short warm up

    8 x 50 25 Bk / 25 FR on :40 sec

    1 x 400 easy

    8 x 50 Fr on :35

    1 x 400 easy

    4 x (50 easy speed for time followed by 100 easy)
    50 FL 24.9 from a dive
    50 Bk 27.1 from a push jammed the turn
    50 BR 33.0 from a push
    50 FR 24.3 from a push

    then did a couple 100's warm down

    ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

    My training plans for this week are:

    Tuesday: Easy, Do stroke drills,

    Wednesday: Easy, Do stroke drills

    Thursday: Fast, Do a few fast 25's and 50's

    Friday: Easy 1,500 - 2,000

    Saturday: Race

    ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

    I'm also pondering how to swim my race
    The sprinter in me wants to get up and go for it
    But I know I need to relax, save my legs on the Fly and Back,
    keep it smooth, breathe a lot, turn well and really work the breast and free.

    We'll see,

    I'll let y'all know how it went

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    here's how the race went
    I got 48th out of 59 swimmers

    I went 2:00.85 in the 200 IM

    my splits were

    48 Rasmussen, Anders 41 Longhorn 2:00.85
    11.37 14.03 25.40
    15.17 14.53 29.70 55.10
    17.81 18.25 36.06 1:31.16
    15.31 14.38 29.69 2:00.85

    I dolphin kicked pretty hard off the walls on the back leg
    then had little left for the breastroke and even less for the free

    but that's my best time for the season
    If I'd gotten another chance to swim it
    I think I would have gone faster

    next time I'm going to try
    taking it really easy on the fly and back and save my legs for
    the breast and free maybe I'll get under 2:00 this season

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    Congrats on your swim Ande! Keep up all your hard work!!

    ~Kyra

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    thank you kyra,
    my next meet is the
    South Central Masters Zone Championships in
    San Antonio, TX on
    Fri April 8 - Sunday April 10th.

    In the mean time i'll be doing a combination of

    March 7 - 11: Training hard

    March 12 - 20: Taking a break the next week cause it's Spring Break and I've got a camp out, beach trip and work training trip,

    March 21 - 27: training hard the week

    March 28 - April 8th: resting the next two weeks and getting ready to race April 8 - 10

    ande

    Originally posted by Seagurl51
    Congrats on your swim Ande! Keep up all your hard work!!
    ~Kyra

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    Good Race Ande

    I'm sorry you didn't break 2:00 Ande....but you did come very close!! I agree from your splits that you probably would have gone under 2:00 if you went out a tad slower (or maybe just a tad more relaxed) and saved more for the end.....The 200 IM is a tricky event (as you and others have pointed out in another thread here).....I've heard some say that it is an all out sprint....but I don't think it is (unless your someone like Ryan Lochte sp?? or Micheal Phelps)......I think the secret is to try and get out fast during the butterfly and backstroke while still conserving enough energy for the breast and free.....The key IMHO, is staying loose and somewhat fresh during these first two legs while still swimming at a pretty fast rate......Do you think that you may have expended too much energy with the underwater dolphin kicks on backstroke??.....Maybe that extra exertion while holding your breath a little longer took something out of you??
    I am swimming a 200 IM (for time at a swim meet) for the first time in 18 years on April 9th (or 10th)....I will let you know what my splits are afterwards......I do think that the 100 IM is more of an all out sprint though.....I am swimming a 100 IM time trial tonite as well as a 100 butterfly time trial tonite (short course meters).....I want to get as close to 1:00 as possible (or hopefully maybe even below 1:00??) in either one or both of them (thinking that about a 5 second conversion from meters to yards would then make a 1:00 convert to a 55 in yards?). I'll let you know the outcome after it is over.

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    meter to yard conversion

    If you are swimming LCM time trial, you should divide by 1.11 to get an estimate SCY time. 1:00.0 for 100 IM or 100 fly is equivalent to <54 100yds. For a more exact calculation, you can go to http://www.swiminfo.com/results/conversions.asp

    How'd you do on your time trials?

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