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    Phelps comeback confirmed

    Phelps is planning on swimming at the mesa grand prix in 2 weeks:
    http://swimswam.com/usa-swimming-con...sa-grand-prix/

    Speculation he is swimming 50 and 100s.

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    I've never actually seen Phelps swim in person, so this is cool. I really hope he's in the 100 fly as I'd love to watch him live. The 50 free should be exciting enough, but that race all happens so quickly that I rarely feel like I can learn anything from it (other than reinforcing that I'll probably never swim a great 50 in my life).

    I really hope that Ledecky and Schmitt will go head-to-head (hopefully) in both the 200 and 400.

    Can't wait to see the psych sheets and see what other international swimmers and younger, fast swimmers will be there.

    This was a great, star-packed meet last year and I'm looking forward to being at at least 4 of the 6 sessions.
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    Re: Phelps comeback confirmed

    I am curious to see what he decides to swim at the olympics. I do not see the 400IM in his program in Rio. I am predicting 200 Free, 200Fly, 100Fly, 200IM, 800 free relay, 400 Medley Relay.

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    Re: Phelps comeback confirmed

    Interesting to see what Phelps can do for a 50

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    Quote Originally Posted by hlopez84 View Post
    I am curious to see what he decides to swim at the olympics.
    I think you mean "what he'll try to make the U.S. Olympic team in." It's not going to be as easy a road for him as it was in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knelson View Post
    I think you mean "what he'll try to make the U.S. Olympic team in." It's not going to be as easy a road for him as it was in the past.
    I honestly feel that he will get through trials and qualify for the olympic team in every event he swims. Personally I still believe that even at 31 (2016) Phelps is still the most physically gifted swimmer in the world. The question I have with a 31 year old Phelps is whether he still has the motivation and the desire to win. I believe the olympics will be a challenge for him this time around. Then again, I think Bowman will put a program in place that will give him the best opportunity to medal at the olympics.

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    Re: Phelps comeback confirmed

    I think it would be very cool to watch him in the pool live!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hlopez84 View Post
    Personally I still believe that even at 31 (2016) Phelps is still the most physically gifted swimmer in the world.
    Agreed, from an all-around perspective; there are certainly specialists who might be more talented in a narrower range, but no one, not even Missy, brings the breadth of talent.

    Quote Originally Posted by hlopez84 View Post
    The question I have with a 31 year old Phelps is whether he still has the motivation and the desire to win.
    I would propose that, if anything, he's probably more motivated now than London. After Beijing, London was a requirement for him and a required set of events. Not that he didn't choose to go for it in London, but he HAD to due to lots of external forces, pressure, etc. I'd say that Michael's likely more in the mindset of a Masters swimmer who WANTS to swim/race (vs. HAVING to do it) and will have more fun as he experiments with different events. The road will not be easy, but I'll bet his motivation is there.
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    Re: Phelps comeback confirmed

    from NPR: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...rom-retirement.

    Seems 50 fr, 100 fr, and 100 fly. These shorter events have less room/time for him to be dominant and for error.

    Anyone read why he said he decided to train after so emphatically claiming he would do otherwise? Agree with PWB about "wants" and "haves."
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    Re: Phelps comeback confirmed

    Jeff Commings is on SportsCenter! http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=107...goryid=2378529

    Good job Jeff!

    Also, lots of words used in groups: http://espn.go.com/olympics/swimming...ing-good-thing
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    I think he can probably make the team in the 100 fly.He can probably be in the top 6 and get on a relay from the 100 free,but getting in the top 2 will be another matter.I doubt very much he could make the team in the 50 free. In other events,he can likely make it in the 200 IM,and likely at least a relay in the 200 free. I doubt he will want to swim the 400 IM or 200 fly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allen Stark View Post
    I think he can probably make the team in the 100 fly.He can probably be in the top 6 and get on a relay from the 100 free,but getting in the top 2 will be another matter.I doubt very much he could make the team in the 50 free. In other events,he can likely make it in the 200 IM,and likely at least a relay in the 200 free. I doubt he will want to swim the 400 IM or 200 fly.
    He is a better 200 Fly swimmer. I would bet he swims the 200 over the 100. I agree with you the 400IM is out.

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    Re: Phelps comeback confirmed

    [QUOTE=pwb;296345]Agreed, from an all-around perspective; there are certainly specialists who might be more talented in a narrower range, but no one, not even Missy, brings the breadth of talent.


    My concern with Phelps is that part of what made him dominant was his extraordinary capacity built from doing all those events. I think an 'easier' program may not turn out to be so 'easy' to win. We'll see.

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    Well, I would say, "I told you so!" But I appear to be just one of a gajillion who could say that, so I'll just say I'm happy he's back.

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    It's GREAT for the sport. chowsh was meh about going to watch this year...until PHELPS announces un-retirement (disretirement?) and yours truly's favorite sister will be barging on the will call window for her prepaid tickets at the mesa grand prix!

    This generation has made swimming fun to watch. Even for nonswimmers.

    IMO, he should train for the 100/200 free and 100/200 fly and have so much fun not traing for a zillion events and every stroke. He should pull a Natalie (she seems to focus only on the 50 free and is having tremendous success, and I think it's also easier to transition to the 100 free as well come the trials) and focus on the 100/200 to get on the Olympic team in a relay, and bonus if he gets 1 or 2 in the fly to make it as well. It's just so so so tough to get a 1st or 2nd....but perhaps better chance to gut his way (if necessary) onto the relays. I would think training is fun because he as nothing to lose, nothing to defend, and it might be nice to train as if knock someone else out rather than defending or racking up a certain medal count. Focusing on relays would be fun since it takes the pressure off of an individual swim, but then if he does make indiv, to put all the effort he's accustomed to into just a few indiv events. Then again, also to watch for pockets of opportunity if any of his events have a weak opening (uh, that would be relative, of course!!!)that he just has to take advantage of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chowmi View Post
    It's GREAT for the sport. chowsh was meh about going to watch this year...until PHELPS announces un-retirement (disretirement?) and yours truly's favorite sister will be barging on the will call window for her prepaid tickets at the mesa grand prix!
    Why isn't she officiating?
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    pwb is your daughter swimming in the GP?

    I haven't applied to officiate at national level events cause I'm not N2 qualified cause I think the qualifying process is too much commitment for me. oh yeah, and I plan to be snapping away with my camera at the GP

    I think MP is a shoo-in for 400 and 800 fr relays for rio. other events no gimme's. have other swimmers come close to his records since Beijing/London? what are his current times vs national and international elites? guess mesa GP will be his first chance to see where he stacks up now! agree with jeff that MP has nothing to prove and is swimming for "fun". should be a psychological advantage for him for Omaha/rio 2016...!

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    Re: Phelps comeback confirmed

    I think fly & free distance will be his choices and relays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chowsh View Post
    I haven't applied to officiate at national level events cause I'm not N2 qualified cause I think the qualifying process is too much commitment for me.
    I totally agree. Next year, though, you should do what I do and line up a volunteer timing spot!

    Quote Originally Posted by chowsh View Post
    I think MP is a shoo-in for 400 and 800 fr relays for rio. other events no gimme's.
    I'd agree with you. The 100 fly, as well, and, if he'd swim it, the 200 fly. I have no hope of seeing him ever do a 400 IM again, but I'd still like to see him in the 200 IM (even moreso than the 200 fly).
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    Re: Phelps comeback confirmed

    Phelps isnít the only one making a comeback, of sorts, at this meet. Katie Hoff has been swimming some local meets in south Florida, however this will be her first meet back to major national-level competition since the 2012 Olympic Trials.
    http://swimswam.com/mesa-grand-prix-...swim-6-events/

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