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    David Marsh - Consultant For Israeli Swimming

    How do you all feel about this? Should he be allowed to represent the US internationally while selling our secret sauce to other countries?

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    Re: David Marsh - Consultant For Israeli Swimming

    Another thread started by you about Dave Marsh? Did he run over your dog or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by knelson View Post
    Another thread started by you about Dave Marsh? Did he run over your dog or something?
    Seriously.

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    Re: David Marsh - Consultant For Israeli Swimming

    On the off chance that you actually want to know the answers (but based upon your last diatribe against Mr. Marsh, I suspect not)...

    Quote Originally Posted by BraunMan View Post
    How do you all feel about this?
    Good for him. Good for Israel. Great for the world of swimming. Let's see the equation here ... More swimmers get faster in Israel = more people get interested in swimming = more global support for our wonderful sport.

    Quote Originally Posted by BraunMan View Post
    Should he be allowed to represent the US internationally while selling our secret sauce to other countries?
    Uh, what command & control non-globalized world do you live in? How is the rest of the world getting better somehow to the detriment of the US? Competition does not weaken us, competition challenges us and makes us better. This is not a zero sum world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwb View Post
    Uh, what command & control non-globalized world do you live in? How is the rest of the world getting better somehow to the detriment of the US? Competition does not weaken us, competition challenges us and makes us better. This is not a zero sum world.
    Hear, hear!

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    Re: David Marsh - Consultant For Israeli Swimming

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    Re: David Marsh - Consultant For Israeli Swimming

    In a related Forum thread, BraunMan has already described David Marsh as follows”
    --“Marsh is overrated and should NOT be the head women’s coach.”
    --“Cullen Jones’ failure to qualify is a huge indictment of Marsh.”
    --“David Marsh should not be considered an elite coach. Period.”
    --“Marsh at the Olympics—just pumping his fists, doing nothing, but taking all the credit for the swimmers he inherited and didn’t build.”
    --“Time for Marsh to answer questions in front of the press about his boy Lochte’s behavior.”

    Obviously then, David Marsh clearly does not have the “secret sauce”. So why would it matter that he has been hired by those poor Israelis, whose national swimming program is now doomed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobBruce View Post
    In a related Forum thread, BraunMan has already described David Marsh as follows”
    --“Marsh is overrated and should NOT be the head women’s coach.”
    --“Cullen Jones’ failure to qualify is a huge indictment of Marsh.”
    --“David Marsh should not be considered an elite coach. Period.”
    --“Marsh at the Olympics—just pumping his fists, doing nothing, but taking all the credit for the swimmers he inherited and didn’t build.”
    --“Time for Marsh to answer questions in front of the press about his boy Lochte’s behavior.”

    Obviously then, David Marsh clearly does not have the “secret sauce”. So why would it matter that he has been hired by those poor Israelis, whose national swimming program is now doomed?
    Bob,
    Best reply ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobBruce View Post
    In a related Forum thread, BraunMan has already described David Marsh as follows”
    --“Marsh is overrated and should NOT be the head women’s coach.”
    --“Cullen Jones’ failure to qualify is a huge indictment of Marsh.”
    --“David Marsh should not be considered an elite coach. Period.”
    --“Marsh at the Olympics—just pumping his fists, doing nothing, but taking all the credit for the swimmers he inherited and didn’t build.”
    --“Time for Marsh to answer questions in front of the press about his boy Lochte’s behavior.”

    Obviously then, David Marsh clearly does not have the “secret sauce”. So why would it matter that he has been hired by those poor Israelis, whose national swimming program is now doomed?

    Because, Marsh has been allowed to spend time and coach with Olympic Master Coaches, and steal their secret sauces.

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    Re: David Marsh - Consultant For Israeli Swimming

    The secret sauce needs to be kept within the country.

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    Re: David Marsh - Consultant For Israeli Swimming

    Quote Originally Posted by BraunMan View Post
    The secret sauce needs to be kept within the country.
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    I got your secret sauce right here...

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    Re: David Marsh - Consultant For Israeli Swimming

    Perhaps we need to start testing for secret sauce.

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    Re: David Marsh - Consultant For Israeli Swimming

    Doesn't Secret (aka Special) Sauce come on a "Whopper" at Burger King? Are we discussing a Whopper here? I think Israel probably already has Burger Kings.

    And if we test for secret sauce, then it won't be a secret anymore, just a sauce.
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    Re: David Marsh - Consultant For Israeli Swimming

    No - I'm referring to our secret training regimens which are vastly superior to what others in the world know, or need to know. Marsh should help us keep our advantage, not sell them to the highest bidder.

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    Re: David Marsh - Consultant For Israeli Swimming

    Quote Originally Posted by Sojerz View Post
    Doesn't Secret (aka Special) Sauce come on a "Whopper" at Burger King? Are we discussing a Whopper here? I think Israel probably already has Burger Kings.

    And if we test for secret sauce, then it won't be a secret anymore, just a sauce.
    Big Mac. The creator of the Big Mac passed away recently. I thought the secret of the special sauce went with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbosback View Post
    Big Mac. The creator of the Big Mac passed away recently. I thought the secret of the special sauce went with him.
    I thought it was Thousand Island dressing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpetyk View Post
    I thought it was Thousand Island dressing?
    So the Israelis don't already have Thousand Island dressing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbosback View Post
    So the Israelis don't already have Thousand Island dressing?
    I believe Ken’s makes a kosher Thousand Island Dressing.
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    Re: David Marsh - Consultant For Israeli Swimming

    Actually the "Secret Sauce" effect has been known for some time:

    "…when Ryan Lochte competed in the Summer Games in Beijing, he took his meals at the McDonald’s in the Olympic Village. “Breakfast, lunch, and dinner,” he later told ESPN, explaining simply: “I knew what I was getting.” "

    http://www.outsideonline.com/2099026...ot-be-defeated

    Obviously, Lochte spilled the "secret" to Marsh when he went to train at SwimMAC.

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