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    Re: Ande's Swimming Tips: Swimming Faster Faster

    Tip 226 LOW IS THE WAY TO GO: Backstroke Breakouts

    Today Thursday, October 23rd, 2008, I did a fast 50 backstroke for time at the end of practice wearing a FS PRO Hineck. At the opposite side of the pool Eddie Reese was on deck coaching his swimmers.

    Unbeknownst to me Eddie watched my fast 50 back. I dove in, SDKed (Streamline Dolphin kicked) pretty far took about 13 kicks, broke out, took a few strokes, turned, SDKed pretty far (13 kicks), broke out, took a few strokes and touched. (went 23.3 )

    As I swimming my easy 50, Eddie caught my attention at the 25, he said watched that 50 and offered this advice on backstroke breakouts.

    "Ande on your backstroke breakouts, you're coming up too steep, popping up too high, then sinking, which slows you down. On backstroke breakouts you've got to press your head and shoulders down, lean back, and stay low."
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    Re: Ande's Swimming Tips: Swimming Faster Faster

    Good one, Ande.

    It's same principle as the freestyle breakout. You watch a lot of younger swimmers just learning to SDK and they will do 2-3 then 'swim to the light' at almost a 45 degree angle and pop up like a cork. I've noticed that if I SDK when I am too close to the surface, I end up popping up. I have been working to transition from SDK to flutter kick a little earlier to smooth this out.

    It's the little things that can add up to faster times.

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    Re: Ande's Swimming Tips: Swimming Faster Faster

    Quote Originally Posted by ande View Post
    "Ande on your backstroke breakouts, you're coming up too steep, popping up too high, then sinking, which slows you down. On backstroke breakouts you've got to press your head and shoulders down, lean back, stay low."

    some of the best advice I have read on this collumn (which has always been great). It seems intuitive, but I never even thought about it.

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    Re: Ande's Swimming Tips: Swimming Faster Faster

    Tip 226 Compression

    If you drop by my swimming blog at
    http://andesswimmingblog.blogspot.com

    You'll see on Wednesday Oct 15th, 2008
    I did a three fast 25 backstrokes for time. I went
    11.2 wearing a lycra training suit and
    11.1 wearing FS PRO LEGS. I've worn the FS PRO LEGS many times in practice, it is getting looser and more stretched out.

    In practice the very next day, Thursday Oct 16th, 2008, I did a couple more fast 25's wearing a FS PRO hineck which is newer and tighter. I went
    10.28 for a 25 SDK
    10.4 for a 25 back.
    The 25 back was 7/10ths of a second faster than my best 25 on Wed Oct 15th, one day earlier.

    When I put on the FS PRO hineck, I struggle more to get it past my butt and hips. Once on, it squeezes those areas more. This squeezing is called compression, where the suit compresses your body, squeezing regions, holding them firm, flattening out bumps, creating a more streamlined profile and slippery surface. This was one of the reasons I went 7/10ths of a second faster.

    7/10ths of a second faster per 25 translates to
    1.4 seconds per 50
    2.8 seconds per 100
    5.6 seconds per 200 and
    11.2 seconds per 400.
    All of which could be huge.
    Not sure if you'll get the same results, but everyone is likely to see improvement when they compare fast times from wearing a training suit versus a tech suit that compresses the athletes body.

    Keep in mind the more often you wear your racing suit, the looser it gets and the less compression it provides. Compression is one of the reasons people were able to swim such fast times while wearing the Speedo LZRs and Blue Seventy Nero Comps. Though Roque Santos with Blue Seventy suggests swimmers shouldn't squeeze down into much smaller Blue Seventy suits.

    Some women told me they had a hard time getting their speedo pro's past their hips and thighs, once they ultimately get the suit on they are compressed

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    Tip 227 V-lieve it or Not

    If you watch footage from the 2008 US Olympic Trials and the 2008 Olympics you'll see that many swimmers wore wrinkle free caps, even caps over caps. These new wrinkle free caps weren't on the market in August 2008 but are now. They are called the Speedo Aqua V - Cap designed by Speedo Aqualab. They say it offers "a unique mulit-density silicone competition cap with a smooth form that offers 5% reduction in passive drag in comparison to standard latex caps."

    Wrinkle Free Caps can help you swim Faster Faster.

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    This could be interesting, hydrodynamic "helmets", one for each stroke.
    Quote Originally Posted by ande View Post
    Tip 227 V-lieve it or Not

    If you watch footage from the 2008 US Olympic Trials and the 2008 Olympics you'll see that many swimmers wore wrinkle free caps, even caps over caps. These new wrinkle free caps weren't on the market in August 2008 but are now. They are called the Speedo Aqua V - Cap designed by Speedo Aqualab. They say it offers "a unique mulit-density silicone competition cap with a smooth form that offers 5% reduction in passive drag in comparison to standard latex caps."

    Wrinkle Free Caps can help you swim Faster Faster.

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    I bought this swim cap today, along with an XLT FS 2, and I ordered an XLL LZR, as well. One for in "season", and the LZR for when I'm fully ready.

    Quote Originally Posted by ande View Post
    Tip 227 V-lieve it or Not

    Speedo Aqua V - Cap designed by Speedo Aqualab. They say it offers "a unique mulit-density silicone competition cap with a smooth form that offers 5% reduction in passive drag in comparison to standard latex caps."

    Wrinkle Free Caps can help you swim Faster Faster.
    The swim cap feels A-M-A-Z-I-N-G

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    Re: Ande's Swimming Tips: Swimming Faster Faster

    hey j

    A-M-A-Z-I-N-G !?!
    cool
    yesterday I ordered an FS PRO that I'll only use in competition and some aqua V Caps for me and teammates at Tempe.

    I've noticed the more I wear my tech suits in practice.
    the more stretched out they get and the less compression they provide
    after repeated wears tech suits do get much easier to put on

    We'll see
    wish you the best
    hope you swim faster faster

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMiller View Post
    I bought this swim cap today, along with an XLT FS 2, and I ordered an XLL LZR, as well. One for in "season", and the LZR for when I'm fully ready.

    The swim cap feels A-M-A-Z-I-N-G

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    Quote Originally Posted by ande View Post
    hey j

    A-M-A-Z-I-N-G !?!
    cool
    yesterday I ordered an FS PRO that I'll only use in competition and some aqua V Caps for me and teammates at Tempe.

    I've noticed the more I wear my tech suits in practice.
    the more stretched out they get and the less compression they provide
    after repeated wears tech suits do get much easier to put on

    We'll see
    wish you the best
    hope you swim faster faster

    ande
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    Let me know how different those caps feel! I'm curious to see if there truly is a significant difference or if it is more psychological than anything. By the way, thanks for the great thread in here!
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    Re: Ande's Swimming Tips: Swimming Faster Faster

    I got the Speedo cap and think I got a little farther off the walls than with a regular cap.I got the LZR full body and it was much faster for me than the B-70 in BR(new Zone Record at 59,not tapered.)
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    Re: Ande's Swimming Tips: Swimming Faster Faster

    I wish I had the money for a LZR. Those things are awesome. Congrats on the record.

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    Re: Ande's Swimming Tips: Swimming Faster Faster

    Allen great swim, or did the bathing suit do it all by itself??? Or did you help?
    Quote Originally Posted by Allen Stark View Post
    I got the Speedo cap and think I got a little farther off the walls than with a regular cap.I got the LZR full body and it was much faster for me than the B-70 in BR(new Zone Record at 59,not tapered.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjgold View Post
    I wish I had the money for a LZR. Those things are awesome. Congrats on the record.
    This is what the swimming world is trying to stay away from; the financial stress on swimmers to be competitive.
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    Re: Ande's Swimming Tips: Swimming Faster Faster

    Quote Originally Posted by Typhoons Coach View Post
    This is what the swimming world is trying to stay away from; the financial stress on swimmers to be competitive.
    For other thoughts on LZRs: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...110802254.html

    I ordered the Aqua-V cap today to give it a try.

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    Interesting article, I can see the potential issues... You know,
    for me it was a first time novelty, but if the LZR only lasts one meet
    I'll be switching to the B70. Probably wear the B70 within the
    regular age category, and splurg on a LZR once every 5
    years. Of course, they might have better technology in 5 years,
    and the swim suit company that considers higher quality in terms of
    duration will win my continued support. It's a good thing there
    are other(s) in the business.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Fortress View Post
    For other thoughts on LZRs: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...110802254.html

    I ordered the Aqua-V cap today to give it a try.

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    Re: Ande's Swimming Tips: Swimming Faster Faster

    Yeah, until Speedo starts shipping them to me for free, I think I'll splurge on a B70 before going after the LZR or whatever their next breakthrough is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geochuck View Post
    Allen great swim, or did the bathing suit do it all by itself??? Or did you help?
    Some of both,I expected to break 1:16 and went 1:14.97.
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    Re: Ande's Swimming Tips: Swimming Faster Faster

    Quote Originally Posted by Allen Stark View Post
    I got the Speedo cap and think I got a little farther off the walls than with a regular cap.I got the LZR full body and it was much faster for me than the B-70 in BR(new Zone Record at 59,not tapered.)
    Great swimming Allen! Hey, I remember you mentioning that you've read all 22 volumes of Freud, are you a psychologist?

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    Re: Ande's Swimming Tips: Swimming Faster Faster

    Quote Originally Posted by Typhoons Coach View Post
    This is what the swimming world is trying to stay away from; the financial stress on swimmers to be competitive.
    I would never suspect this... did you see the inside cover of our USMS Swimmer magazine this month? In another thread, I suggested that perhaps all the expense associated with having the latest tech gear in order to compete with the elites (now at almost any age group level) will ultimately drive many from swimming.

    But I digress from the purpose of Ande's thread, which is how to swim faster, faster. This requires a critical analysis of such advances in gear.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Typhoons Coach View Post
    This is what the swimming world is trying to stay away from; the financial stress on swimmers to be competitive.
    Could have fooled me.

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