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    Ande,

    Good luck at the swim meet, will you be wearing the Blue+ suit at the competition? Let me know how the suit feels, I would like a full critique if possible...

    Those are some pretty good LCM goals... I hope you accomplish them.

    Quote Originally Posted by ande View Post
    Monday June 2nd, 2008

    did not weigh in today

    I ordered Blue Seventy PointZero3+ swim skin
    it should arrive Thu or Friday

    I've grown out my nails for the meet this weekend
    one broke last night so i superglued it back then
    put a clear coat over the tips

    these are the events I'm swiming and times I'm hoping to beat

    Friday, June 6, 2008
    10. 50 Freestyle 25.31

    Saturday, June 7, 2008
    20. 100 Butterfly 59.74
    24. 50 Backstroke 29.18

    Sunday, June 8, 2008
    36. 100 Backstroke 1:03.50
    38. 50 Butterfly 26.77

    Saturday I'm attending a wedding at 4:00
    so I'm not sure If I'll make it to finals

    ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Stevenson View Post
    Okay, clearly my dedication to the craft is lacking because I simply cannot imagine a set of circumstances that would result in me writing that sentence...
    Not many women are that dedicated. I'm wondering what Beth thinks ...

    Can you have someone tape your 50 back?

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    hey J,

    I've already done those times
    I want to see if I can beat them and by how much

    I'm going to test the Blue Seventy PointZero3+ swim skin in practice
    before I use it in a meet

    Quote Originally Posted by JMiller View Post
    Ande,

    Good luck at the swim meet, will you be wearing the Blue+ suit at the competition? Let me know how the suit feels, I would like a full critique if possible...

    Those are some pretty good LCM goals... I hope you accomplish them.

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    Ande, John is working on a draft of a rule change to USMS to ban for life any swimmer who wears a triathlete suit in a pool.

    And I agree with John...cut the nails....or get them done and start cross dressing.
    I crack myself up. It is jealousy. It is Boredom. I Did not accomplish enough when I was young, and I hate anybody faster/younger than me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ande View Post
    200 easy

    todays assigned set was
    30 x 100 on 2:00
    1 - 4 desc
    5 fast
    6 easy
    7 - 11 holding the same pace as # 5
    12 easy
    REPEAT 1 - 12 again
    Then do 1 - 6

    Here's what I did:
    swam easy on 1 - 4
    went 1:10, 1:06, 1:01, 1:10

    #5 FAST easy speed
    went 52
    from a dive

    swam easy 50's on 7 - 11
    12 did an easy 100
    swam easy 100's on next round of 1 - 4

    #5 FAST easy speed
    went 51
    from a dive

    swam easy 50's on 7 - 9
    then got out and rested till the last #5
    changed into FS I Jammers

    #5 FAST
    went 49
    from a dive
    whitney timed
    2 Questions. What stroke count are you holding on these, and any chance we can see any more of these quick practice times on YouTube sometime?

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    Re: Ande's Swimming Blog

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Smith View Post
    Ande, John is working on a draft of a rule change to USMS to ban for life any swimmer who wears a triathlete suit in a pool.
    Of course I realize this is a joke...but he better be willing to give up his Fastskin, since Speedo has a line of FS-II triathlon suits.

    The line between wetsuits and technical suits is blurring. A friend of mine competed in the Duathlon World Championships held here in Richmond last fall. All the USA competitors had to wear a 2-piece USA Fastskin uniform...and there is no swimming at all in a duathlon!

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    Tuesday June 3rd, 2008

    Reader Comments Below

    did not weigh in today

    ordered a Blue Seventy PointZero3+ swim skin
    it shipped
    should arrive Thu or Friday
    David Guthrie sent me this article today
    http://www.swimnetwork.com/articles/..._of-12877.html
    I think I should have ordered the Nero Comp.

    nail broke again it's a goner

    this weekend I'm swimming the following events (recent best times)
    Friday, June 6, 2008
    10. 50 Freestyle 25.31
    Saturday, June 7, 2008
    20. 100 Butterfly 59.74
    24. 50 Backstroke 29.18
    Sunday, June 8, 2008
    36. 100 Backstroke 1:03.50
    38. 50 Butterfly 26.77

    ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

    Yesterday I deviated from my planned workout
    so today I deviated again and went really easy

    6:30 am - 8:00
    dove in at 6:45 am
    whitney coached
    TSC LCM Main Pool
    swam with Paul Walker, Mary , Joe, Lynne, & Flocast Swimming's Garret McCaffrey
    beside Tyler, Nathan doug, ned & amy

    500 easy

    50 easy free
    50 fly easy speed dive went around 27

    100 easy
    100 easy

    4 x 50 easy

    100 easy
    100 easy

    and that's it folks for today
    I hung out with whitney and watched my team mates finish their workout.

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    Hey Chris,
    longer nails make a difference, try it sometime
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Stevenson View Post
    Okay, clearly my dedication to the craft is lacking because I simply cannot imagine a set of circumstances that would result in me writing that sentence...
    Hi John,
    There you go again, dissing innovation,
    I'll cut my nails on Sunday after the 50 fly.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoodSmith View Post
    Ande,
    Cut your nails ! This is creepy and weird.
    John Smith
    Sam,
    No heels, but longer toe nails could improve my SDK speed
    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Perry View Post
    I just wonder how far you'll go if it comes out that wearing heels will help improve your SDK.
    Hey J,
    I'm gonna test out the suit, Eddie and Kris said Roque brought some suits for UT swimmers to try, they did and didn't feel it was as fast as an LZR
    Again those LCM times are my recent bests, my goal times are a bit faster
    I just want to see how much I can improve on them.
    Quote Originally Posted by JMiller View Post
    Ande,
    Good luck at the swim meet, will you be wearing the Blue+ suit at the competition? Let me know how the suit feels, I would like a full critique if possible...
    Those are some pretty good LCM goals... I hope you accomplish them.
    Hey Fort,
    Beth and my son give me a hard time
    I hope so I think flow cast is going to be there
    Not sure if I'll swim finals because I'll be at a wedding at 4:00
    Quote Originally Posted by The Fortress View Post
    Not many women are that dedicated. I'm wondering what Beth thinks ...
    Can you have someone tape your 50 back?
    Hey Paul,
    Not so sure about the suit, my buddy pete nunan raved about it, some UT swimmers tried it, Eddie and Kris told me they feel it's not as fast as the LZR and might need a redesign. open water swimmers go much slower than sprinters. the fabric intrigues me, I heard a coach say one of the olympican swimmers tried it and said it was much easier to get on than an LZR and it seem to stay in place when he swam in it. Since it's easy to get on, it's probably easy to take off making much better for Triathlon transitions.
    Not into cross dressing
    I'm just trying to catch up with the 2 smiths now that I'm 45
    I'll cut the nails this Sunday
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Smith View Post
    Ande, John is working on a draft of a rule change to USMS to ban for life any swimmer who wears a triathlete suit in a pool. And I agree with John...cut the nails....or get them done and start cross dressing.

    Hi Shaman,
    I take
    8 - 10 when I'm doing DPS
    11 - 13 when I'm swimming easy and not paying attention and
    13 - 15 when I'm going fast but I wasn't counting yesterday
    I'll bring a camera to practice sometime.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shaman View Post
    2 Questions. What stroke count are you holding on these, and any chance we can see any more of these quick practice times on YouTube sometime?
    Last edited by ande; June 3rd, 2008 at 12:09 PM.

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    Well those are certainly very good LCM times... No wonder your swimming blog is over 160,000+ views...

    Hey, they changed the signature specifications... What do you think about that? You'll only be able to put 1 or 2 links in now... 200 characters or less...

    Quote Originally Posted by ande View Post
    Hey J,
    I'm gonna test out the suit, Eddie and Kris said Roque brought some suits for UT swimmers to try, they did and didn't feel it was as fast as an LZR
    Again those LCM times are my recent bests, my goal times are a bit faster
    I just want to see how much I can improve on them.

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    Re: Ande's Swimming Blog

    Quote Originally Posted by ande View Post

    ordered a Blue Seventy PointZero3+ swim skin
    it shipped
    should arrive Thu or Friday
    David Guthrie sent me this article today
    http://www.swimnetwork.com/articles/..._of-12877.html
    I think I should have ordered the Nero Comp.
    I think I might try the Nero Comp. Do you have a link to purchase it? I only found the other suits for purchase on the Blue Seventy website. Looks like it runs big. I'd have to order down a size according to their sizing charts.

    So sorry about the nail!

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    Wednesday June 4th, 2008

    ordered a Blue Seventy PointZero3+ swim skin it should arrive Thu or Fri, May send it back
    also ordered a Nero Comp hope to get it thursday
    Got a very nice emails 2 swimmers on these suits
    can't wait to try it.


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    SWIMMING

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    dove in at 6:45 am
    whitney coached
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    swam with Nathan, Braid Bailey, Andrew and Joe
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    200 easy

    todays assigned set was
    40 x 50 on 1:00
    1 fast 1 easy
    2 fast 1 easy
    3 fast 1 easy
    4 fast 1 easy
    5 fast 1 easy
    then do the set in reverse
    5 fast 1 easy (switched to long course on this part)
    4 fast 1 easy (this one too)
    3 fast 1 easy
    2 fast 1 easy
    1 fast 1 easy

    swam easy on the first round
    swam easy on the LCM 5 fast 1 easy
    on the 4 fast 1 easy
    swam one skipped 2 then did

    20 meters FR fast from a dive
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    then got out and rested 20 minutes

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    whitney timed
    went 23.7

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    24. 50 Backstroke 29.18

    Sunday, June 8, 2008
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    Hey J,
    thanks, I appreciate all the folks who follow my blog, the active commenters like you and the lurkers, didn't know they changed the sig specs
    Quote Originally Posted by JMiller View Post
    Well those are certainly very good LCM times...
    No wonder your swimming blog is over 160,000+ views...
    Hey, they changed the signature specifications... What do you think about that? You'll only be able to put 1 or 2 links in now... 200 characters or less...
    Hey fort,
    I'm definitely curious about the blue seventy nero comp
    hope to try it and wriite about it soon, not sure how they run
    got a nice email from Dennis Baker on his
    he wrote:
    "The suit is the best one out there."
    "The top three in my mind and a lot of elite swimmers I have talked to are these: Blue- number one 5% less drag or what ever you want to call it. Tyr- number two 4%. Lzr- number three 2%. You can get bubbles but unlike regular fastskins, which bubbles are bad, bubbles in the Blue are no problem, might even help. Size is a must, I wore a 26 and it was perfect. I am 5-11 and 170. Talk to Roque he can help."
    "I think each time you wear the suit you learn better how to swim in it. My feet and shins where coming way out of the water in the 100 fly at Irvine, had to adjust."

    Quote Originally Posted by The Fortress View Post
    I think I might try the Nero Comp. Do you have a link to purchase it? I only found the other suits for purchase on the Blue Seventy website. Looks like it runs big. I'd have to order down a size according to their sizing charts.
    So sorry about the nail!
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    When you try the Blue Seventy suits, I'd be curious to know whether you think they rip as easily as the FS Pro. If they're "rubberized," maybe not? I love the Pro, but I've had ripping issues with all but one suit. Are you going to try the new suits this weekend? Good luck!!

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    I must say Ande that I am surprised that you worry more about your fingernails than your weight. You mentioned some time ago that Eddie commented on your weight. Surely dropping 5-10 lbs and the improved power to weight ratio would do more for you than nails a few millimeters longer.
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    Thursday June 5th, 2008

    Hi Fort,
    I hope it arrives today and I hope i get to wear it in my 50 free
    I'll give y'all a full report.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Fortress View Post
    When you try the Blue Seventy suits, I'd be curious to know whether you think they rip as easily as the FS Pro. If they're "rubberized," maybe not? I love the Pro, but I've had ripping issues with all but one suit. Are you going to try the new suits this weekend? Good luck!!
    Hey Hoff,
    I'm concerned about my weight and hope to drop 5 - 15 lbs
    there's just not much I can do about it right now
    since my meet begins tomorrow.
    I definitely plan to do something about it in my next training phase.
    As far as I know there's no study to determine what difference nail length can make in swimming performance, but I believe it could be way more significant than a few 100th's.
    Quote Originally Posted by hofffam View Post
    I must say Ande that I am surprised that you worry more about your fingernails than your weight. You mentioned some time ago that Eddie commented on your weight. Surely dropping 5-10 lbs and the improved power to weight ratio would do more for you than nails a few millimeters longer.

    Blue Seventy PointZero3+ swim skin
    Arrived today
    May send it back, my understanding is the point zero is made for triathletes to put on over their triathlon gear when the water is too warm to wear a wet suit.
    it's also pretty easy to take off in the swim to bike transition

    the blue seventy nero comp is for pool racing
    Arrived today

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    I'm also thinking when my new training phase begins on monday where I resume normal training and pretty much do the assigned workouts, I may need to do something extra to lose weight.

    I'm thinking about walking a couple extra miles a day and getting a
    Garmin Forerunner 405 Wireless GPS with Heart Rate Monitor to track my walking
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    700 easy mostly free, some backstroke


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    Saturday, June 7, 2008
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    24. 50 Backstroke 29.18

    Sunday, June 8, 2008
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    38. 50 Butterfly 26.77



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    Re: Ande's Swimming Blog

    Ande -

    As a former Golden Bear, I'm hoping Roque can "do me a solid" on a BlueSeventy. What size Nero Comp did you order? I'm 6'2", 190, 43in chest...
    This bush league psyche-out stuff. Laughable, man - ha ha!

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    Update,

    both Blue Seventy Suits arrived today.
    a size 32 Nero Comp & a Point Zero 3+

    with the Nero Comp most of the suit is rubberized fabric.
    It has fabric only portions in 2 sections
    1) small triangular patch by each ankle and
    2) around the arm holes that cross over and make the X on the back.

    I tried on the nero comp

    First time I didn't get the crotch up high enough, I was getting sweaty, and the suit seemed difficult to move up and adjust, so I took it off, took a break let the suit and me dry a little before trying again.

    Next time I concluded it's really important to start right
    so I pulled the bottom part of legs further up my calf then
    pulled it up (one leg at a time) pinching the leg fabric between between my thumb pad and knuckle.
    No fingernails.

    One thing I found particulaly helpful was
    pull it up the first time to my thigh then roll it down half way, doubling over the fabric
    then adjusting the suit on my calf with the fabric doubled over, it seemed easier to pull up that way
    getting the bottom portion of the legs up high enough on my calf to make the crotch hit correctly.

    Success!
    Got the calves legs and waist in so the rest was easy.

    Got the straps over my shoulders then my wife zipped me in and
    I wore it for a few minutes.

    I noticed is I started sweating in the suit so it's probably a good idea to not put on the suit until 15 to 20 minutes before your race.

    I believe this suit is probably very difficult to put on when it or you are wet.
    So keep or get it and you dry before putting it on.

    If you're swimming multiple events it's probably a good idea to keep it on and stay cool.

    I plan to wear the Nero Comp in tomorrows 50 free prelims and look forward to reporting how the swim goes.

    In March 2008 I swam the 50 meter free wearing a hineck FS II in
    25.31
    That's the time to beat.

    results will be at:
    http://www.utexas.edu/longhornaquati...ults/index.htm

    timeline estimates Prelims event 10 Mens 50 Freestyle to begin at 11:52 AM Texas Time (CST)

    Stay tuned,

    Ande

    in 1991 I went
    20.52 in the 50 fr &
    23.65 in the 50 LCM free
    this year at SCY nats I went 21.43 which is 0.9 from 20.5
    so 0.9 off 23.65 is 24.55
    so if I swim like I did at Nats I hope to be in the range of 24.5 - 24.7
    Last edited by ande; June 5th, 2008 at 10:36 PM.

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    Does the rubber give you more "give" than the Pro? Is it a ripping hazard like the Pro? Do you get the sense the suit would dry off quickly like the Pro?

    Thanks for the update. Are you going to wear it for any other events possibly?

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    in 1991 I went
    20.52 in the 50 fr &
    23.65 in the 50 LCM free
    this year at SCY nats I went 21.43 which is 0.9 from 20.5
    so 0.9 off 23.65 is 24.55
    so if I swim like I did at Nats I hope to be in the range of 24.5 - 24.7
    35 Rasmussen, Ande 45 Longhorn 25.31 24.50 qJRS

    Very nice swim. I look forward to your comments on what effect, if any, the suit had on your time.
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    Friday June 6th, 2008

    wanna give a shout out to my buddy Josh Davis, 35
    he deck entered the 400, went for his 50 fr OT cut
    needed to go 23.49 and he went 23.29
    so he made the cut and is going to the US OLympic Trials as a competitor
    Way to go Josh!

    other masters at this meet are
    David Guthrie and Steve Wood

    Looking forward to following all the meets this weekend

    USA Olympic Hopefuls are competing in 4 big meets this June 5 - 8 weekend

    1) Senior Circuit Meet in Austin, TX

    2) 2008 Swimvitational held in Omaha, Neb.,

    3) Charlotte Ultraswim held in Charlotte, N.C. to close out the Toyota Grand Prix Series and the

    4) 2008 JANET EVANS INVITATIONAL in Los Angeles, at the McDonald's Swim Stadium, the 1984 Los Angeles Games pool



    TODAY

    slept in


    WEIGHTS did a light lift today

    Lat Press
    5 x 40 5 x 45 5 x 50 5 x 55

    Lat Pull
    5 x 165 5 x 205 5 x 225

    Bench Press
    5 x 135 5 x 185 5 x 205


    arrived at the pool around 9:15

    warmed up, felt good

    watched swims for a couple hours

    warmed up again

    put on the blue seventy nero comp
    think I'm keeping the Blue Seventy PointZero3+ swim skin

    PRELIMS:
    50 free
    heat 3 lane 6
    went 24.50
    which is my best time in years
    Aubrey got my 25 split at 10.7
    felt great, probably breathed too much
    I really like the suit and feel like it's the fastest one I've ever worn.

    Made the E final and will swim the 50 free again tonight

    went home to eat lunch, dry out my suit and rest up

    FINALS:
    got to watch some really excellent swims like:
    scott spann went 2:11 in the 200 breast
    kirsty coventry went 4:08 in the 400 free
    rickey berens and aaron piersol went 1:58 200 fly
    garrett Weber Gale went 22.2

    50 FREE
    went 24.63
    a little slower than this morning



    Still trying to figure out my training plan for up to Zones


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    Friday, June 6, 2008
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    Prelims went 24.50

    Saturday, June 7, 2008
    20. 100 Butterfly 59.74
    24. 50 Backstroke 29.18

    Sunday, June 8, 2008
    36. 100 Backstroke 1:03.50
    38. 50 Butterfly 26.77



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    Re: Ande's Swimming Blog

    Great job ande!!! Good luck tonight. Very interesting about the suit. Is there any substantial difference that you can see between the nero comp and the point zero3+?

    The suit may be great, but if they don't fix that website, they won't sell any. They don't list the price of the nero comp suit, show the long leg model, say that it's sold out, or allow you to pre-order. Nor do they return emails. Not a great way to do business.

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    Re: Ande's Swimming Blog

    Yikes, dude. I read your swimsuit-putting-on epic. I think I'll be just wearing jammers in Portland, so I don't miss my events. Do you think there's a hidden cost to wearing these suits in how exhausting they are to put on?

    Also, nice 50 free!

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