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    Re: Crossover kick

    wouldn't do drills
    I would just swim and concentrate
    Doing the new kick while you're swimming
    will make you more comfortable with it

    mantra:
    6 beat kick
    6 beat kick
    6 beat kick

    it's hard to change imbedded habits
    once you lose focus you might relapse

    some very good swimmers have cross over kicks
    but I think the fastest swimmers don't
    rowdy gaines crosses his ankles in each 2 arm stroke cycle

    the other day in practice on the snake swims I noticed how far some of the slower swimmers legs come apart which isn't good

    Quote Originally Posted by alphadog View Post
    Hey Ande
    I've been working to get rid of this curse and I can hold about a 4 beat flutter kick without crossing over for about 50 yards. The problem is that the crossover was so integral to my technique that my kick feels disconnected if I don't do it. I watched a female swimmer the other day and she seemed to have a very integrated flutter kick (i.e., left arm enters the water at the same time as the right kick downsweep). It occured to me that her kick timing is very similar to mine without the crossover. So here is my question:

    Should there be integration/timing between your arm cycles and flutter kick? Either way, can you suggest drills that will help me get more comfortable with my new kick?

    Mike

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    Re: Ask Ande

    Ande,
    I started back with the lifting this week but I want to do smart lifting. I don't want to gain any bulk this time around like I did in my senior year of high school and freshman year of college. I want to do a lifting regiment geared towards a butterflyer/IMer/distance freestyler. Can you recommend a program, a book, or websites so I can find the right dryland program for me. Thanks.

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    Re: Ask Ande

    hey tjr,

    how old are you
    I've found it's hard to gain bulk but it's important to be strong
    I like my weight routine I do
    it's in my blog

    here's an article on Jason Lezak's weight program
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/jasonlezak1.htm

    people argue about
    exercises, frequency, sets, reps and weight

    do something
    be consistent
    modify for injuries
    don't get hurt
    start out easy
    at first you're going to be sore




    Quote Originally Posted by tjrpatt View Post
    Ande,
    I started back with the lifting this week but I want to do smart lifting. I don't want to gain any bulk this time around like I did in my senior year of high school and freshman year of college. I want to do a lifting regiment geared towards a butterflyer/IMer/distance freestyler. Can you recommend a program, a book, or websites so I can find the right dryland program for me. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ande View Post
    hey tjr,

    how old are you
    I've found it's hard to gain bulk but it's important to be strong
    I like my weight routine I do
    it's in my blog

    here's an article on Jason Lezak's weight program
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/jasonlezak1.htm

    people argue about
    exercises, frequency, sets, reps and weight

    do something
    be consistent
    modify for injuries
    don't get hurt
    start out easy
    at first you're going to be sore
    Ande,

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    Swimming in open water

    Hi Ande,
    I find your knowledge and insights very helpful. I have a question that
    is a little off your normal dialogs, if you would indulge me with what you
    would do I would appreciate it.

    I will be traveling to north of LA in a month or so. I would like to do some long hour-ish swims in the ocean. I am a little apprehensive about swimming early morning or near evening. My days will be taken with work. I can take a wet suite. I understand shark attacks are very rare but why tempt fate with swimming early or late and looking like a seal.

    Am I just being a wuss?
    What would you do with the above situation?

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    To anyone in Texas I hope all is well.
    Keep it simple George Park
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    Re: Swimming in open water

    hey Mid,

    you're not being a wuss

    I stick with pools

    if I were swimming in the ocean, I'd have a friend in a boat, kayak, or surf board escorting me on my swims. I'd swim with several swim buddies


    Quote Originally Posted by midpool View Post
    Hi Ande,
    I find your knowledge and insights very helpful. I have a question that
    is a little off your normal dialogs, if you would indulge me with what you
    would do I would appreciate it.

    I will be traveling to north of LA in a month or so. I would like to do some long hour-ish swims in the ocean. I am a little apprehensive about swimming early morning or near evening. My days will be taken with work. I can take a wet suit. I understand shark attacks are very rare but why tempt fate with swimming early or late and looking like a seal.

    Am I just being a wuss?
    What would you do with the above situation?

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    Re: Swimming in open water

    Hey Midpool,

    here's some more info

    Southern Pacific Masters Association is comprised of 60 Masters teams in Southern California
    http://www.spma.net

    this is the open water swimming page
    http://www.spma.net/open_water.php

    There has to be organized open water swim practices going on
    here's where you can find the list of teams
    talk with them and see if anyone knows of any open water swimming groups
    http://www.spma.net/spma_clubs.php

    the times I've been out to LA I've trained with SCAQ
    http://www.swim.net/scaq.cfm

    UCLA Bruin Masters coach Gerry Rodrigues is a distance guy
    he might be able to help you find open water swimming groups
    http://www.bruinmastersswimming.com
    (310) 702-9327
    swimpro@pacbell.net

    I prefer slighly warmer water 79 - 80 and fewer smaller critters.

    Quote Originally Posted by midpool View Post
    Hi Ande,
    I find your knowledge and insights very helpful. I have a question that
    is a little off your normal dialogs, if you would indulge me with what you
    would do I would appreciate it.

    I will be traveling to north of LA in a month or so. I would like to do some long hour-ish swims in the ocean. I am a little apprehensive about swimming early morning or near evening. My days will be taken with work. I can take a wet suite. I understand shark attacks are very rare but why tempt fate with swimming early or late and looking like a seal.

    Am I just being a wuss?
    What would you do with the above situation?

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    Re: Swimming in open water

    Excellent reply Ande, thank you very much!

    Now if you could fix my turns so I am not loosing 1/2-1 body length and
    address the unknown issue that causes me on longer swims to loose form but
    never to tire out in my shoulders, legs or core.

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    hey dude,

    you're welcome

    I'll look at your turns and offer suggestions at the end of practice sometime

    Quote Originally Posted by midpool View Post
    Excellent reply Ande, thank you very much!

    Now if you could fix my turns so I am not losing 1/2 - 1 body length and
    address the unknown issue that causes me on longer swims to lose form but
    never to tire out in my shoulders, legs or core.

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    Re: Ask Ande

    Hello Ande:

    I am new to swimming. I have been practicing on my own for three months, 3 to 4 days per week. Freestyle only.

    Maybe I'm imagining this but my right hand seems to have a better catch and feel for the water than my left hand. I am a right handed person. Any idea on why my left is slipping worse than my right? Ways to correct?

    Thank you,

    Neal

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    Hi Neal,

    How can you tell your catching better with your Right than your LEFT?

    I suggest you swim one arm 25's
    one length right
    one length left
    Count your strokes
    is there a difference?

    how long does it take you to swim a fast 25?

    when swimming freestyle
    you need to reach your hands out front as far as you can, then enter catch the water, keep your grip and press your hands back as far as you can
    some swimmers don't take a full stroke cycle

    make a video of you swimming
    put it on youtube
    invite us to watch it

    get one on one swimming instructions

    you may have FEEL FOR THE WATER issues
    swimmers have to learn how to grip the water

    sculling drills might help you

    swimmers tend to be very unaware of what their bodies are doing when they are swimming
    habits tend to be embedded
    it's very difficult to change a habit
    but it is possible

    today I watched one of my teamates swim and his left hand sweeps almost straight out to the left hand side instead of going slightly out then down

    it would be helpful to have above and underwater footage of you swimming to see if your perception is reality and if you really need to correct it

    My thought is only attempt to correct something if I will make you faster
    the problem is
    while you're focusing on the correction
    you might do it right
    but once you stop focusing you immediately slip back to your old habit.

    Hope this helps

    Good luck

    ande


    Quote Originally Posted by camop View Post
    Hello Ande:
    I am new to swimming. I have been practicing on my own for three months, 3 to 4 days per week. Freestyle only.
    Maybe I'm imagining this but my right hand seems to have a better catch and feel for the water than my left hand. I am a right handed person. Any idea on why my left is slipping worse than my right? Ways to correct?
    Thank you,
    Neal

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    Thanks, Ande,

    Great idea with the one arm 25's! I'll try that Monday.

    I am doing a clinic this Saturday and the brochure says they will be video taping above and below the water at the beginning and the end of the clinic. I don't know if I will be able to keep the video. If I can I'll post it.

    I have been watching the fast swimmers here (Culver City, CA) and they seem to glide forever on each stroke! I know I have a long road ahead, but it sure is fun.

    Neal

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    Hey Ande,

    So I've read somewhere on the forum that "aerobic training kills speed". I have transitioned to my speed cycle in preparing for an Oct 11th meet (after about 6 weeks of almost pure aerobic training) and I'm trying to figure out how to mix my workouts. Your thoughts?

    Incidentally, the emphasis in speed and increased weight in my lifting routine are leaving me pretty sore between workouts. Do you think it is better to do long/relatively easy aerobic workouts between sprint sessions or just take the day off?

    Mike

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    hey Mike,

    I wrote that "aerobic training kills speed".
    Oct 11th is pretty close
    focus on stregth and speed then add a layer of rest
    you don't have to swim fast every day
    just most days
    you can do some gentle work outs
    eventually you won't get sore from weight training
    I prefer to do an easy work out rather than skipping a day

    ande


    Quote Originally Posted by alphadog View Post
    Hey Ande,

    So I've read somewhere on the forum that "aerobic training kills speed".
    I have transitioned to my speed cycle in preparing for an Oct 11th meet (after about 6 weeks of almost pure aerobic training) and I'm trying to figure out how to mix my workouts. Your thoughts?

    Incidentally, the emphasis in speed and increased weight in my lifting routine are leaving me pretty sore between workouts. Do you think it is better to do long/relatively easy aerobic workouts between sprint sessions or just take the day off?

    Mike

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    Ande,

    thanks! will do.

    Mike

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    Hi Andy:

    Tried the one arm 25's and the first couple of times I did seem to take more strokes with my left than with my right.
    Then they seemed to even out:

    First time 13R/14L
    second time 12R/13L
    third 12/12
    fourth 12/12

    It still seems to me that me feel for the water is more 'solid' on the right.

    I had the lifeguard time a 25 for me after a 500yd warm up: 14:55

    (I also have timed a 100 LCM at 1:26 and a 1500 LCM at 29:38)

    I haven't been able to get around to video taping my swimming but I'll try to get it done soon.

    Thanks!

    Neal

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    hey neal,

    keep swimming they'll even up
    what are your training goals

    ande

    Quote Originally Posted by camop View Post
    Hi Andy:

    Tried the one arm 25's and the first couple of times I did seem to take more strokes with my left than with my right.
    Then they seemed to even out:

    First time 13R/14L
    second time 12R/13L
    third 12/12
    fourth 12/12

    It still seems to me that me feel for the water is more 'solid' on the right.

    I had the lifeguard time a 25 for me after a 500yd warm up: 14:55

    (I also have timed a 100 LCM at 1:26 and a 1500 LCM at 29:38)

    I haven't been able to get around to video taping my swimming but I'll try to get it done soon.

    Thanks!

    Neal

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    Quote Originally Posted by ande View Post
    hey neal,

    keep swimming they'll even up
    what are your training goals

    ande
    I'm not sure about goals yet. When I started I just wanted to improve my 1500 meter fr enough to swim a relay with my son in a triathlon. . . Now I have discovered I really enjoy the challenge of swimming just for its own sake. I am thinking how cool it would be to do a 22:00 1500 someday.

    I am hoping to learn a backstroke and breaststroke.

    Maybe after a few more months at the pool I will be better able to figure what I want to shoot for. . .

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    Re: Ask Ande

    22:00 is holding 1:28's
    what's the difference between
    your time in the 100 vs the pace you can hold for a 1500?

    bottomline is
    improve your technique
    improve your speed
    improve your conditioning

    good luck

    ande

    Quote Originally Posted by camop View Post
    I'm not sure about goals yet. When I started I just wanted to improve my 1500 meter fr enough to swim a relay with my son in a triathlon. . . Now I have discovered I really enjoy the challenge of swimming just for its own sake. I am thinking how cool it would be to do a 22:00 1500 someday.

    I am hoping to learn a backstroke and breaststroke.

    Maybe after a few more months at the pool I will be better able to figure what I want to shoot for. . .

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