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    Re: flutter kick help

    Quote Originally Posted by ElaineK View Post
    Hey, Ande! I'm looking forward to seeing you at Nationals! See you in MV!
    I'm looking forward to it
    I need to book my flight and hotel

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    John Smith - You could go to the aquaerobics pool and play with a water noodle. -Probably should have done that right when you aged up though. You'll have to do some catching up now.
    Last edited by Roland Wolfe; July 9th, 2013 at 04:47 PM.

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    The ladies in the aqua-noodle class would love your muscle car

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    John Smith - You could go to the aquaerobics pool and play with a water noodle. -Probably should have done that right when you aged up though. You'll have to do some catching up now.

    Certainly qualifies as motivation by humiliation, unfortunately, I would need to gain another 50lbs just to make the cut for that group.

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    Dear Ande,

    I think I may have found some motivation.

    Since you said I can't (shouldn't) live my life vicariously through my children, I am thinking about racing my son next season. He goes a 100yd fly, gives me 1.5 seconds, and I go a 100yd free. I may reserve the right for a full body suit at the last second if needed though.

    The general humiliation aspect appeals to me, and he is more likely to remind me through the next half year to keep working out.

    If you would like to join me in this potential wager let me know. I am thinking you go a 100yd fly with a 8 second spot.


    Your thoughts?

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    Clark ought to be in mid 45's by then, so you may need more than just the full body suit!
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    Re: Ask Ande

    I want you to live vicariously and
    be THAT dad

    Bets work great for you
    I'm happy to race you in 100 fl &
    you give me an 8 sec spot
    Accepted ( cyber handshake)
    I think with Clark you'll need 2.5 to 3 sec comparing his 1 FL to your 1 Fr
    I think you'll be 48.0 to 48.7
    Last edited by ande; September 5th, 2013 at 04:04 PM.

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    Re: Ask Ande

    Quote Originally Posted by ande View Post
    ....
    I'm happy to race you in 100 fl &
    you give me an 8 sec spot
    Accepted ( cyber handshake)
    Yeah.... right.

    Do you want in on this bet or not Raz?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Abrahams View Post
    Clark ought to be in mid 45's by then, so you may need more than just the full body suit!
    Rich
    Probably right...... I am older and slower now. I'll toy around with the numbers before I talk to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Average John Smith View Post
    Yeah.... right.
    Do you want in on this bet or not Raz?

    Probably right...... I am older and slower now. I'll toy around with the numbers before I talk to him.
    Glad you agree
    what are the numbers?

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    Ande
    Six months ago I attended a course given by a young coach who has worked with a number of international squads. His basic theory for sprinting is summarised as Coach B below- it seems to encourage a body position like a speedboat in the water- with head high and feet low- and a quick and "light" style
    I have just attended a course by Coach A, older, and internationally renowned. His theory for sprinting is summarised as Coach A below- but delivered quickly and with power for sprinting. When I tried it out I certainly felt my whole body working hard and in coordination .. it seemed like TI with steroids

    The styles seem so at odd with each other, I would appreciate your thoughts ...... I am a flabby , middle aged, wannabe sprinter.


    Coach A
    Coach B
    Keep flat in water with a tight core Scull in front of head and when feel front of boy rising – this is correct position for stroke
    Eyes on bottom of pool Water line between hairline and eyebrow, and watch hands enter water
    Rhythmic 6 beat kick with clear linkage to arm entry Very shallow - very fast leg kick with big toes almost tapping - no linkage


    Fenella [trying flying - and has flown !]

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    Hi

    You're going to get conflicting advice

    Coach A
    Keep flat in water with a tight core (OK, think you need to rotate too so I want to know what he means by flat
    Eyes on bottom of pool (aka keep Head neutral, look up a little before turns to sight your turn)
    Rhythmic 6 beat kick with clear linkage to arm entry (not sure about this, you want a powerful propulsive kick


    Coach B
    Scull in front of head and when feel front of boy rising – this is correct position for stroke (what does this mean?
    Water line between hairline and eyebrow, and watch hands enter water (think that's too high
    Very shallow - very fast leg kick with big toes almost tapping - no linkage (not sure how much amplitude is ideal, some, not much

    with true sprinting you need a little reckless abandon and give up a little control
    you want to be fierce and get lost in the moment

    watch underwater videos of great sprinters and do what they do

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    Re: Ask Ande

    Quote Originally Posted by ande View Post
    with true sprinting you need a little reckless abandon and give up a little control
    you want to be fierce and get lost in the moment

    watch underwater videos of great sprinters and do what they do
    and what work's for one may not do the same for others, or even be recommended to try:

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    Re: flutter kick help

    Hi Myranda,

    your question in SFF is an Ask Ande Question. so I moved it and my answer over here.

    myrandalove wrote:
    Hi, I am 17 and have begun swimming competitively this last year. I joined my high school swim team in February and did well for my first year. I have continued to swim with the my coach who is also a masters swimming coach in addition to hs coach. I swim 4x a week since my high school season ended and I feel like I have vastly improved since I was on the team. I even did an open water mile and each workout is around 3,000 meters. My times have improved a lot for example: my 500 free time in Feb. was around 8:00 minutes while now, I can do 500 's on intervals of 6:40 now. My fastest 100 free during the season was 1:03, it dropped dramatically near out championships from a 1:10. however my fastest 50 was 28 seconds the entire season, no matter how hard I tried I could not break the 28 second barrier and I didn't improve my time at all throughout the season. Recently i did a timed trial for the 50 free. I expected to see a big improvement by at least 1 or two seconds since i think my technique has really improved..I went all out, but I only did a 28. This is frustrating and disheartening, because I really want to qualify for the sections finals when I join the team again. I need 26 seconds by March or April to qualify.
    You want to improve your 50 freestyle time.
    You want to swim faster faster. You are at 28 and you need to go 26 by March

    Do you think it's possible?
    YES

    Is it because I am not a sprinter?
    NO
    it is because you have not developed the ability yet.

    What can I do to achieve this?
    LOTS of things
    Train 6 or 7 days a week, focus on SPEED, 15 meters, 25 yards, & 50 yards.
    Improve your technique
    Improve your kick
    Lift weights and get stronger

    What suit did you wear when you went 28?
    get a faster suit and wear it when you go for the time

    it begins by setting your goal,
    Then Making your plans
    then MOST IMPORTANT
    Do your plan each day and
    track your progress

    Swim Faster Faster is full of ideas that can help you
    Swim Faster Faster Index

    my rewrite of Tip 265 should prove most helpful to you:

    "Train harder, smarter, faster, further, more often with a
    positive attitude, coached by a
    great coach, with
    fast fun positive hard working team mates, in a
    convenient facility with adequate lane space & at
    convenient times while having
    tons of fun"

    Lastly, start NOW.

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    Ande:

    A quick question. A year or so ago, you had workouts posted on this site and I understand they (USMs.org) rotates the workout providers every year or so. But I was wondering if they are still on the site somewhere. I really found those to be beneficial. And would be lying if I said I enjoyed doing them all, but I felt great afterwards and noticed over time I was able to go on faster intervals.

    Thanks.

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    Hey, Ande!
    Are you going to Worlds and/or Nationals? If so, I'll see you at both!

    Cheers!
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    Hey, Ande! I'm back again...

    I may be "Elaine-iaK" to you, but Bruce calls me "Aquadog" at meets and hums "Aqualung" by Jethro Tull to get me psyched up for my races. Knowing you are a songwriter, I thought I would post my quick (and pathetic
    ) re-write of "Aqualung."

    Standing on the starting block--
    psyched up for the race with good intent.
    Crouching down the whistle blows--
    exploding from the blocks off I go!
    Hey Aquadog

    Racing hard with all my might--
    my flying arms are quite a sight!
    Hey Aquadog

    Feeling lactate in my blood--
    I hope I don’t finish this race with a thud!
    Whoa, Aquadog

    Oh, I’m feeling old--
    my arms slowing and struggling.
    Getting through
    the only way I know.
    Arms hurting bad,
    as I try to finish this race--
    I dig down deep
    my heart wants to succeed.

    Feeling alone--
    other racers are up ahead
    if I’m to finish strong
    it’s going to be all up to me.

    Aquadog I am--
    I will fight, not give up easy.
    I may be slow, but
    I’ll achieve, you’ll see.

    I still remember
    how fast I used to be--
    when I swam faster butterfly,
    back and breast, and even free.

    “The older I get the faster I was”
    that is my motto now,
    but nothing is going to stop me,
    my passion is swimming.

    Oh, I’m feeling old--
    my arms slowing and struggling.
    Getting through
    the only way I know.
    Arms hurting bad,
    as I try to finish this race--
    I dig down deep
    my heart wants to succeed.

    Feeling alone--
    other racers are up ahead
    if I’m to finish strong
    it’s going to be all up to me.

    Aquadog I am--
    I will fight, not give up easy.
    I may be slow, but
    I’ll achieve, you’ll see.

    Aquadog I am--
    I will fight, not give up easy.
    I may be slow, but
    I’ll achieve, you’ll see.

    Standing on the starting block--
    psyched up for the race with good intent.
    Crouching down the whistle blows--
    exploding from the blocks off I go.
    Hey Aquadog

    Racing hard with all my might
    My flying arms are quite a sight!
    Hey Aquadog

    Feeling lactate in my blood--
    I hope I don’t finish this race with a thud!
    Whoa, Aquadog

    Whoa, Aquadog!


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    Hey Ande! I just found this thread. This is probably a question I could ask my local masters coaches, but I kind of want to just show up to practice more often and impress them. If they ask why, I'll give you credit. If not, I'll pretend I'm just really motivated.

    I'm new to swimming--started last November. Masters has been a great experience. Everyone is welcoming, no one judges even if they can swim circles around me. I swim a 100 yd free in about 1:35. I'm going to race a 100m free in September. I'd like to bring my time down before then (with expectations appropriately adjusted based on the yards to meters conversion). I'm not expecting to turn into a record holder, but I want to show the people helping me that I'm trying, I care about my swimming, and I want to improve.

    I've heard of the whole "taper" thing, but I never really thought it applied to me because I'm not an elite swimmer.

    My two-part question is...how many times per week should I be swimming right now to improve but not overwork myself? Do non-elite swimmers taper?

    I hope this is a really good two months of training. Thanks!

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    Here it is
    http://forums.usms.org/forumdisplay.php?95-Workouts


    Quote Originally Posted by dwil View Post
    Ande:

    A quick question. A year or so ago, you had workouts posted on this site and I understand they (USMs.org) rotates the workout providers every year or so. But I was wondering if they are still on the site somewhere. I really found those to be beneficial. And would be lying if I said I enjoyed doing them all, but I felt great afterwards and noticed over time I was able to go on faster intervals.

    Thanks.

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    Hi elainiak
    Aqua dog
    Change it to aqua fox
    I entered nats
    No worlds
    Need to get room & air

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