Results 1 to 14 of 14

Thread: Labrum tear in shoulder

  1. #1
    Participating Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    maimi, FL
    Posts
    3

    Question Labrum tear in shoulder

    I read several e-mails hear about repairing Labrum tears in shoulders. I have a labrum tear and am considering acupuncture instead of orthroscopic surgery. Has anyone heard whether or not acupuncture can repair a labrum tear?

    Thank you,

    ECE

  2. #2
    Very Active Member jonblank's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Raleigh NC
    Posts
    151
    The short answer is no, it can't.
    Acupuncture may help with pain relief, but should not improve the defective labrum. Since pain relief and not alteration in shoulder function is usually the issue, acupuncture is worth a try, though.
    "What, Me Worry"? - Alfred E. Neuman

  3. #3
    Participating Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    maimi, FL
    Posts
    3

    Labrum tear & acupuncture

    Jonblank:

    Thank you for the quick reply.

    Re. your answer, do you know this from experience? According to my doctor, the MRI revealed a tear. It may not be "shoulder alteration," but it has altered me. If I do over the head activity, it hurts. Therefore, it is not only pain, but I believe it needs to be repaired whether by orthoscoptic surgery or acupuncture or whatever...so I can resume the overhead activities.

    ece

  4. #4
    USMS Member since 2003 gull's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Posts
    2,514
    Accupuncture will not repair a torn labrum.

  5. #5
    Participating Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    maimi, FL
    Posts
    3
    gull80:

    Thank you. Like me, are you assuming this or do you know this from experience?

    ece

  6. #6
    USMS Member since 2003 gull's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Posts
    2,514
    I am a physician (but not an orthopedist). Check out this link:

    http://www.physsportsmed.com/issues/...9/richards.htm

    Two years ago I had an MRI (without an arthrogram) which did not show a tear, and eventually I "recovered" with physicial therapy. However, I suspect (but cannot prove) that I had a small tear of the labrum which was missed by the MRI (and healed with conservative/nonsurgical treatment).

  7. #7
    Very Active Member nkfrench's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Fort Worth, TX
    Posts
    627
    I had a glenoid labrum tear in the late 80's. There was a long loose flap that would get caught in the joint when I moved my arm. My shoulder also subluxed and it was very painful to swim as each freestyle stroke entry my arm would start slipping out of the socket. Had reconstructive surgery. It took a while to recover even with extensive physical therapy and I had to have a followup procedure to remove a loose screw a year later. Had dramatic improvement from the surgery especially after the screw was removed.

    With the original injury, I could not raise my arm more than a foot away from my side. A couple of days on some anti-inflammatories and I regained full range of motion, but still had pain due to the derangement.

    Not all tears are the same.

    I would think acupuncture's effects would be limited to pain relief and perhaps reducing inflammation.

  8. #8
    Participating Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Kahuku HI
    Posts
    1

    Re: Labrum tear in shoulder

    Hello: Like you, I fell outstreched arm and had immediate tightness on swim and post pain; first consult PT thought labrum tear; how long should I wait to see if it improves (it's been three weeks); can not imagine life without ocean swims!

    How are you now after much time has passed post surgury?

    I am 59, surfer/ocean swimmer live in HI.

    1031group@gmail.com

  9. #9
    Very Active Member E=H2O's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Lake Oswego, OR
    Posts
    496

    Re: Labrum tear in shoulder

    IMHO

    A Labrum tear in shoulder can not be healed with acupuncture. Have you ever met someone with one confirmed by an MRI, treated solely with acupuncture and have it healed and confirmed by an MRI? Acupuncture may resolve the pain (don't know this by experience just what some people have said), but it doesn't reattach/repair cartilage.

    Regardless, I wish you a quick recovery.
    "If you didn't swallow water in your last open water race, you weren't racing."

    www.bobswims.com/

  10. #10
    Participating Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Northern California
    Posts
    5
    Blog Entries
    5

    Re: Labrum tear in shoulder

    I have a labral tear in my shoulder and am facing surgery in a few weeks. I've tried rest, ice, heat, long hot soaks in a bath tub, physical therapy and acupuncture. The physical therapy just aggravated the injury even further. The acupuncture has helped the pain and inflammation immensely! I think acupuncture works for some folks and maybe not for others. My acupuncturist agrees with my orthopedist and physical therapist in that the torn labrum will not heal itself. All the research I've done to date points to surgery. I'm not looking forward to it, but I am looking forward to being able to swim without agonizing pain again one day.
    http://MastersSwimmersBlog.com

  11. #11
    Very Active Member E=H2O's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Lake Oswego, OR
    Posts
    496

    Re: Labrum tear in shoulder

    Quote Originally Posted by MastersSwimmersBlog View Post
    I have a labral tear in my shoulder and am facing surgery in a few weeks. I've tried rest, ice, heat, long hot soaks in a bath tub, physical therapy and acupuncture. The physical therapy just aggravated the injury even further. The acupuncture has helped the pain and inflammation immensely! I think acupuncture works for some folks and maybe not for others. My acupuncturist agrees with my orthopedist and physical therapist in that the torn labrum will not heal itself. All the research I've done to date points to surgery. I'm not looking forward to it, but I am looking forward to being able to swim without agonizing pain again one day.
    I wish you the best. I go in for surgery in 2 days. At this point it does not appear I have a labral tear so my surgery is to relieve an impingement. If he finds more he'll fix it while he is in there. Have you checked UTube for videos of the surgery that might be performed on you? You may find them helpful (if you are not the squeamish type). Surgery is never fun, but I have been lucky enough to have had some great results in the past.
    "If you didn't swallow water in your last open water race, you weren't racing."

    www.bobswims.com/

  12. #12
    Very Active Member orca1946's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    schaumburg, il
    Posts
    5,943

    Re: Labrum tear in shoulder

    I have a friend who has this problem. I will tell him of your advice. Thanx

  13. #13
    Participating Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Edwyn Ralph, England
    Posts
    5

    Re: Labrum tear in shoulder

    Quote Originally Posted by E=H2O View Post
    I wish you the best. I go in for surgery in 2 days. At this point it does not appear I have a labral tear so my surgery is to relieve an impingement. If he finds more he'll fix it while he is in there. Have you checked UTube for videos of the surgery that might be performed on you? You may find them helpful (if you are not the squeamish type). Surgery is never fun, but I have been lucky enough to have had some great results in the past.
    Hope all is OK

    I visit my consultant (UK) next week. My MRI shows a small tear in the labrum. After Googling it looks like some Key Hole required. I am lucky that I am still swimming but only 1-2 times a week and Free Style only. I have had the problem since Oct 09.

    Finally hello to you all .

  14. #14
    Very Active Member E=H2O's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Lake Oswego, OR
    Posts
    496

    Re: Labrum tear in shoulder

    Quote Originally Posted by Tewson View Post
    Hope all is OK

    I visit my consultant (UK) next week. My MRI shows a small tear in the labrum. After Googling it looks like some Key Hole required. I am lucky that I am still swimming but only 1-2 times a week and Free Style only. I have had the problem since Oct 09.

    Finally hello to you all .
    Things went great and the prognosis is good. No additional damage noted. It's never going to be good as new, it will be better than it was and I am hoping it will be much better.
    "If you didn't swallow water in your last open water race, you weren't racing."

    www.bobswims.com/

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •