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**mattson** · March 3rd, 2003, 04:18 PM

Is there an estimated time when the 1650 will start for SC Nat?

I'm flying in that morning, and am wondering if I'll be there early enough to consider swimming it. (Deadline is one hour before the start of the race.)

For instance, what time did it start in past SC Nationals? Thanks.

barryf · March 4th, 2003, 01:28 AM

Last year in Hawaii, the 1650 started at 11:46 am. This year the men swim first and we expect about 50% more swimmers than in Hawaii. With this assumption, the first heat in the men's 1650 would start at 1:23 pm. We will be able to make a much better estimate after all entries are received.

**mbmg3282** · March 4th, 2003, 03:39 PM

Also keep in mind that seeding will be a bit different this year for the 1000 and the 1650. Instead of swimming the men's event and then the women's event, we are going to alternate one heat of men and then one heat of women.

If the meet is very large, the Championship Committee may make the 1000 and 1650 mixed events. This means that men and women will be seeded by time only with no regard for gender or age.

Either way, this means that if you are one of the faster distance swimmers, you will be swimming near the end of the event regardless of gender. If you are one of the more moderate speed swimmers, you will be swimming near the beginning of the event.

After the April 10th entry deadline, I should be able to give you a better estimate.

Mark Gill
Meet Director

markgill@usms.org

**mattson** · May 5th, 2003, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mbmg3282
If the meet is very large, the Championship Committee may make the 1000 and 1650 mixed events. This means that men and women will be seeded by time only with no regard for gender or age.

Hi Mark, how will you handle the 1000/1650 heats with two pools? I was thinking, if you had odd heats in pool "A", and even heats in pool "B", that wouldn't be ideal. Each odd heat will be slower than its corresponding even heat, so after some time pool B" could be a whole heat ahead.

I could see putting heat 1 in A, heats 2 & 3 in B, heats 4 & 5 in A, etc. On the other hand, this would be much more confusing. I am just wondering what the official method will be. (Yes, I am trying to calculate my own timeline.

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March 3rd, 2003, 04:18 PM	#1
mattson Bigger than a breadbox Mark Mattson Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 1,067	1650 Check-in Deadline? Is there an estimated time when the 1650 will start for SC Nat? I'm flying in that morning, and am wondering if I'll be there early enough to consider swimming it. (Deadline is one hour before the start of the race.) For instance, what time did it start in past SC Nationals? Thanks.

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March 4th, 2003, 01:28 AM	#2
barryf Very Active Member Barry Fasbender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Palo Alto, CA Posts: 232	Last year in Hawaii, the 1650 started at 11:46 am. This year the men swim first and we expect about 50% more swimmers than in Hawaii. With this assumption, the first heat in the men's 1650 would start at 1:23 pm. We will be able to make a much better estimate after all entries are received.

March 4th, 2003, 03:39 PM	#3
mbmg3282 Pretty Lethargic Swimmer Mark Gill Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 591	Also keep in mind that seeding will be a bit different this year for the 1000 and the 1650. Instead of swimming the men's event and then the women's event, we are going to alternate one heat of men and then one heat of women. If the meet is very large, the Championship Committee may make the 1000 and 1650 mixed events. This means that men and women will be seeded by time only with no regard for gender or age. Either way, this means that if you are one of the faster distance swimmers, you will be swimming near the end of the event regardless of gender. If you are one of the more moderate speed swimmers, you will be swimming near the beginning of the event. After the April 10th entry deadline, I should be able to give you a better estimate. Mark Gill Meet Director markgill@usms.org