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atp2jcb · October 3rd, 2003, 01:57 PM

I'm new to competitive swimming and am planning on attending nationals this coming year. I've found the 2003 SCY National qualifying times, but 2004 times are not out there yet. What formula do they use to determine the qualifying times?

WaterRat · October 3rd, 2003, 07:48 PM

Here is the official definition, subsequently, they usually don't vary to much from year to year. Good Luck!

NQT's are determined in the following manner:
The qualifying times shall be 10 percent slower than the average of the previous three years' tenth place time on the USMS Top Ten list. If there are fewer than ten swimmers on the Top Ten list for one of the previous three years, the qualifying times shall be 10 percent slower than the average of the other two years' tenth place times on the USMS Top Ten list. If there are fewer than ten swimmers on the Top Ten list for two or three of the previous three years, the qualifying times shall be 15 percent slower than the average of the previous three years' fifth place time on the USMS Top Ten list. If there are fewer than five swimmers in the Top Ten list for one of the previous three years, the qualifying time shall be 15 percent slower than the average of the other two years' fifth place time. If there are fewer than five swimmers on the Top Ten list in two or three of the previous three years, there shall be no qualifying time.

Number in Top Ten Years out of Last 3 Qualifying Time
10 2 or 3 avg. +10%
5-9 2 or 3 5th avg. + 15%
0-4 2 or 3 No NQT

cinc310 · November 4th, 2003, 06:10 PM

There are plenty of pools that have as much as more depth than Mission Viejo. The Hillenbrand pool at the Univeristy of Arizona. As a teengaer I never swam my best long course times at Mission Viejo. I did better times at the 50 meter pool in Walnut and the 50 meter pool at Newport Beach Harbor High. The gutter system is dated to the early 1970's but many pools are like that. Mission Viejo has to compete between the Irvine pools and the new Sokia University pools for major competitons in their area. I'm not putting the pool down but as I stated the University of Arizona pool which is a little younger is probably as good as Mission Viejo. And most of the world records set there were back in the 1970's and 1980's. Fewer in the 1990's. The McDonalds pool in LA has more recent world records than Mission since its hosts the Janet Evans meet which draws a better class of top swimmers.

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October 3rd, 2003, 07:48 PM	#2
WaterRat Active Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 32	Here is the official definition, subsequently, they usually don't vary to much from year to year. Good Luck! NQT's are determined in the following manner: The qualifying times shall be 10 percent slower than the average of the previous three years' tenth place time on the USMS Top Ten list. If there are fewer than ten swimmers on the Top Ten list for one of the previous three years, the qualifying times shall be 10 percent slower than the average of the other two years' tenth place times on the USMS Top Ten list. If there are fewer than ten swimmers on the Top Ten list for two or three of the previous three years, the qualifying times shall be 15 percent slower than the average of the previous three years' fifth place time on the USMS Top Ten list. If there are fewer than five swimmers in the Top Ten list for one of the previous three years, the qualifying time shall be 15 percent slower than the average of the other two years' fifth place time. If there are fewer than five swimmers on the Top Ten list in two or three of the previous three years, there shall be no qualifying time. Number in Top Ten Years out of Last 3 Qualifying Time 10 2 or 3 avg. +10% 5-9 2 or 3 5th avg. + 15% 0-4 2 or 3 No NQT

November 4th, 2003, 06:10 PM	#3
cinc310 Very Active Member cynthia curran Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: tucson arizona Posts: 972	There are plenty of pools that have as much as more depth than Mission Viejo. The Hillenbrand pool at the Univeristy of Arizona. As a teengaer I never swam my best long course times at Mission Viejo. I did better times at the 50 meter pool in Walnut and the 50 meter pool at Newport Beach Harbor High. The gutter system is dated to the early 1970's but many pools are like that. Mission Viejo has to compete between the Irvine pools and the new Sokia University pools for major competitons in their area. I'm not putting the pool down but as I stated the University of Arizona pool which is a little younger is probably as good as Mission Viejo. And most of the world records set there were back in the 1970's and 1980's. Fewer in the 1990's. The McDonalds pool in LA has more recent world records than Mission since its hosts the Janet Evans meet which draws a better class of top swimmers.