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Dominick Aielloeaver · October 18th, 2005, 02:12 AM

Question ,how many people belong to both USA & USMS ?

sibleyclan · October 18th, 2005, 04:19 AM

I belong to both but, for now at least, my membership in USAS is as a non-athelete (official).

Dominick Aielloeaver · October 18th, 2005, 01:50 PM

Sibleycan. Do you ever see ,old people at these meets ? I never was a Usa Member. But I did join this week to see if I could get in more swim meets in my area. I dont even know what swim meets are avaible. I am no speedster by any means. I am 70 yrs old. So maybe I can get in some unrestricted meets. Dom.

Frank Thompson · October 18th, 2005, 04:14 PM

Domonic:

One of the big differences in the meets between USA Swimming and USMS is that most of time they have time cuts for eligibility and qualification to swim in USA swimming meets. I know of no qualifing times at the local and zone level in USMS. There is however at the USMS National and FINA World level meets.

Before I would join I would see what meets I would qualify for and would it be worthwile to join. Now with dual sanctioning, I don't really know how many meets that will entail and I would not have to be a USA member to participate in them. If you go to the LSC page on the USA swimming site of the LSC you want to join they will have cutoff times for A, AA, B, and C. Some meets are A, B, C, cuts which means they are open to all just like all of our USMS local and zone meets. I am sure its different for every different LSC in the country.

Good luck and it will be interesting to see what meets you can qualify to swim in the LSC. I believe all USMS members would have to qualify with the Open division time cuts.

sibleyclan · October 19th, 2005, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dominick Aielloeaver
Do you ever see ,old people at these meets ?

I have seen very few older people at meets but, up until just recently, most of the meet sessions we attended were 12 & under. Now that my kids have turned 13, we'll start attending senior/open meets/sessions.

Dominick Aielloeaver · October 19th, 2005, 04:57 PM

Sibllycan. Well your children can also become masters when they become of age. Mean time I wish they become olympic swimmers. Dom .

geochuck · December 6th, 2005, 04:57 PM

Usa/ Masters

You will see lots of old swimmers when you swim at master's meets. Don't race the young guys just race the clock.

scotswim · December 20th, 2005, 10:55 AM

I swam AAU/USS as a kid but I swam USS again from age 30-37 and I swam USMS also. Now I am a full time USMS coach and I have two young masters swimmers (mid-late 20's) who are swimming with the my masters team. As teenagers both swimmers raced against me and told me they referred to me as the old guy who swam fast. They also said they got nervous about racing and losting to an old guy.

**thewookiee** · February 8th, 2006, 07:39 PM

As of today, 2/08/06, I have a membership in both groups. My first USA meet is Saturday. I am looking forward to racing again, regardless of the age of the other swimmers.

craiglll@yahoo.com · March 14th, 2006, 11:37 AM

I was looking at Iowa's webpage and saw that both USA Swimming and USMS logos were on it.

View Poll Results: How many people belong to both USMS & USA ?
How many people belong to Both Usa & Usms	17	19.32%
How many people belong Only USA	0	0%
HOw Many people belong only USMS	71	80.68%
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October 18th, 2005, 02:12 AM	#1
Dominick Aielloeaver Very Active Member Dominick Aiello Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Gilbert AZ. Posts: 182	Usa/ Masters Question ,how many people belong to both USA & USMS ?

October 18th, 2005, 01:50 PM	#3
Dominick Aielloeaver Very Active Member Dominick Aiello Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Gilbert AZ. Posts: 182	USA/USMS Sibleycan. Do you ever see ,old people at these meets ? I never was a Usa Member. But I did join this week to see if I could get in more swim meets in my area. I dont even know what swim meets are avaible. I am no speedster by any means. I am 70 yrs old. So maybe I can get in some unrestricted meets. Dom.

October 18th, 2005, 04:14 PM	#4
Frank Thompson Very Active Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 970	Time Cuts Domonic: One of the big differences in the meets between USA Swimming and USMS is that most of time they have time cuts for eligibility and qualification to swim in USA swimming meets. I know of no qualifing times at the local and zone level in USMS. There is however at the USMS National and FINA World level meets. Before I would join I would see what meets I would qualify for and would it be worthwile to join. Now with dual sanctioning, I don't really know how many meets that will entail and I would not have to be a USA member to participate in them. If you go to the LSC page on the USA swimming site of the LSC you want to join they will have cutoff times for A, AA, B, and C. Some meets are A, B, C, cuts which means they are open to all just like all of our USMS local and zone meets. I am sure its different for every different LSC in the country. Good luck and it will be interesting to see what meets you can qualify to swim in the LSC. I believe all USMS members would have to qualify with the Open division time cuts. __________________ Skip Thompson

October 19th, 2005, 04:57 PM	#6
Dominick Aielloeaver Very Active Member Dominick Aiello Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Gilbert AZ. Posts: 182	USA/ASTERS POLL Sibllycan. Well your children can also become masters when they become of age. Mean time I wish they become olympic swimmers. Dom .

October 18th, 2005, 04:19 AM	#2
sibleyclan Active Member Leonard Sibley Join Date: May 2005 Location: NC Posts: 53	I belong to both but, for now at least, my membership in USAS is as a non-athelete (official).

December 6th, 2005, 04:57 PM	#7
geochuck Very Active Member George Park Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Vancouver British Columbia Canada Posts: 5,801	Usa/ Masters You will see lots of old swimmers when you swim at master's meets. Don't race the young guys just race the clock. __________________ Keep it simple YingFa male swim suits http://www.swimdownhill.com/id2.html George Park http://swimdownhill.com

December 20th, 2005, 10:55 AM	#8
scotswim Participating Member Scott VanKuilenburg Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 5	I swam AAU/USS as a kid but I swam USS again from age 30-37 and I swam USMS also. Now I am a full time USMS coach and I have two young masters swimmers (mid-late 20's) who are swimming with the my masters team. As teenagers both swimmers raced against me and told me they referred to me as the old guy who swam fast. They also said they got nervous about racing and losting to an old guy.

February 8th, 2006, 07:39 PM	#9
thewookiee Very Active Member FURBURGLAR Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: McHairland Posts: 1,414	As of today, 2/08/06, I have a membership in both groups. My first USA meet is Saturday. I am looking forward to racing again, regardless of the age of the other swimmers.

March 14th, 2006, 11:37 AM	#10
craiglll@yahoo.com Very Active Member Craig Johnson Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Galesburg, IL Posts: 1,638	I was looking at Iowa's webpage and saw that both USA Swimming and USMS logos were on it.

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