Locations of 2004 Nationals

[mpmartin]

What locations were selected for 2004 National Championships?

[matysekj]

2004 Short Course Nationals will be at the IU Natatorium in Indianapolis.

2004 Long Course Nationals will be at the Chatham County Aquatic Center in Savannah, Georgia.

Convention results can be found at www.usms.org/admin/conv02/

[mpmartin]

Thanks Jim. Did anyone besides Indianoplis bid for short course Nationals?

[michaelmoore]

Only Indianapolis bid and it was received after the deadline.

michael

[Gail Roper]

Wouldn't this be nice if Indianapolis ran this is short course meters. They have the facility to do this. What are the chances of this happening?

[michaelmoore]

Indianapolis made a bid for a short course yards meet. The House of Delegates voted on a short course yards meet. It would require a vote of the House to change it from a yards to a meters meet.


michael

[Gail Roper]

What happened to the proposal that the Championship committee was going to vote on where the Nationals were going to be held?

[michaelmoore]

R-3 the Rule proposal was voted down by the House. I would guess it lost 40% to 60%

I would have liked to have won on that vote, but in real terms I thought we would have gotten only a third of the vote, so we did a little better than I thought we would.

In the Sunday morning review, the delegates said that they did not have enough time in their committees to do the work that needed to be done. Championship Committee had two extra meeting over their scheduled meetings - the two meeting went on to after 11pm.

The House decided that it wants to schedule an HOD meeting to listen to the different venues bidding for the Championships. This year's HOD meeting was one and a half hours long. If the House is looking for extra time, one place is the HOD meeting for Championship bids.


michael

[sarah tyler]

are there dates for the 2004 national meets?

[matysekj]

Here's what I have for the dates of the 2004 Nationals, although I am not 100% sure of them:

Short Course: April 22-25 (Th - Su) at Indy. The order of events is the one specified in schedule 3 of the passed R4 in the approved rule changes (http://www.usms.org/admin/conv02/rulesadopted.pdf).

Long Course: August 11-15 (W - Su) at Savannah. I have a hard copy of the order of events, but can't find an electronic copy yet in the minutes that I brought back. I'll add that to the minutes when we locate it.

[Gail Roper]

April for Indy? Do you mean May? This meet is always held about the second weekend in May.

[MPohlmann]

April is correct for 2004 in Indianapolis. Many conflicts in May, largely due to the Indy 500, which occurs over several weeks in May.

[croberts]

Did anyone else bid for the long course championships or just the pool in Savannah? Also, any information about that facility?

[Paul Smith]

I'm really glad to see SC Nationals moved into April, one of the problems with having it in May is you have very little time to prepare for LC in August. I'd still like to see USMS host a SCM nationals in December! 3 majot championships a year held in the same "windows" as USS scheduling would make a lot of sense.

[Rob Copeland]

Chris,
For information regarding the facilities in Savannah, contact Scott Rabalais at scottrabalais@compuserve.com.

And, a second bid from New Orleans was presented for the 2004 Long Course meet. Savannah won the vote and was selected.

[Gail Roper]

I disagree with having any sc meters championships in December. At one time, the December meet made sense because that was an "open" season. When the rules changed that gave everyone a birthday in January, it now makes sense to have meters meets early in the year. Why should US swimmers wait almost a year when the rest of the World is swimming?

[Paul Smith]

Gail, I think its unlikely we'd get to much interest in changing the SCY nationals in April/May switched to meters (far two few meters pools to train in in this country). I propose a SCM championship to give us three national championship meets a year vs. just two.

Late fall is the "traditional" season when Eurpoeans host SCM meets (many attend our SCY nationals in spring and their own LCM nationals in summer). It would also allow training "windows" of about 3 months between each major meet.

I brought this up in the last forum because so many of us shave and taper for a SCM meet this time of year anyway (NEM and Long beach both host 3 day meets). Rumor has it that Long Beach may not be happening this year?

[Phil Arcuni]

I should say that Pacific also hosts a three-day SCM meet, this year at Walnut Creek. Maybe it should be called a four-day meet, since the 1500 is held somewhere else. It's a good meet, my memory is that several national records are broken every year.

[rseltzer]

The NEM meet is a two day meet. This year, it will be held Saturday December 14th and Sunday December 15th at Wheaton College (very fast pool) in Norton, MA. More information can be found at: www.swimnem.org

Yes, the SPMA will not be held at Long Beach. They are searching for another venue. Word has it that UNLV might be the site.

Stay tuned for a "challenge" from NEM. We are working with several regional championship meet directors to create a "virtual" SCM championship. More on that later, as NEM seeks to retain its title as "center of racing for masters swimming."

[jim clemmons]

The Pacific SCM Championships are Oct 12 and 13. The 1500 is Oct 5 this year. I'm thinking you can call it a 3 day meet? Or is it a 2.5 day meet? The 1500 is in a different locale.

Jim