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  1. jim thornton's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt Dickson
    children dying in the street? I love you man but you are killing me.
    Kurt, I wasn't joking. During the SCOTUS healthcare arguments, this exchange occurred:

    [The uninsured are] going into the [health care] market without the ability to pay for what [they] get, getting the health care service anyway as a result of the social normsto which weve obligated ourselves so that people get health care, explained Solicitor General Donald Verrilli.

    Well, dont obligate yourself to that, Scalia countered. Why you know?

    So instead of requiring the uninsured to obtain health coverage, Scalia would rather fix the cost shifting problem by letting hospitals deny emergency medical care to anyone who cannot pay the full cost of their treatments.
    The callous stance taken by Scalia and opponents of the health care law prompted Justice Sonia Sotomayor to ask, What percentage of the American people who took their son or daughter to an emergency room and that child was turned away because the parent didnt have insurance do you think theres a large percentage of the American population would stand for the death of that child?

    from: http://www.whatthefolly.com/2012/04/...are-guarantee/

    I'm not saying that Scalia will prevail on this, but if five of the Supremes agree that the 1986 Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) is somehow unconstitutional, it's not an entirely crazy leap to suggest some poor kids might die untreated.
  2. swimshark's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by jim thornton
    And some say I have lost it! These Brony people are out of control!

    P.S. What is a Brony? I get that the "ony" is the back half of "pony" but what is the Br part?
    I think the BR comes from brother, but don't quote me on that one. They are big enough to make the front page of the Style section in the WA Post on Sat. They have t-shirts and everything.

    PS I don't think you lost it. Not sure you ever had it
  3. Kurt Dickson's Avatar
    children dying in the street? I love you man but you are killing me.

    hey...we all leave skidders...I'm crazy and I'm right...
  4. jim thornton's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt Dickson
    Your baby is on crack and helium...the government has mandated all be seen by ERs but has not funded this law in the like 25 plus years since it was enacted which I think would include a few democratic majorities and administrations. No other "right" we have obligates another, say me for instance, to perform a service and not get payed for it and have the opportunity to get sued for it as well.

    Since you love Santorum so much...here is a good one..."Rick Santorum" — A BLR Soundbite - YouTube
    It's a bummer, man, I know when the thrill is gone, but just grab another lolli, take it out on the street where Scalia implies the future mortal cases can soon be left. When the dying child screams, drop the pop and ease her on down to the other side. The hippocratic oath must needs glide a bit when all the money gets grabbed by the few bad men.

    I will never sue you, fellow traveler, who does his best day in and day out! And sees only the best in people, like rick santorum's lip reader.
  5. jim thornton's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by jaadams1
    Sorry that I'm getting to this late, but I 100% agree with Kurt's first comment, even before reading any of the other 16 or so comments below #1.
    Kurt was being comical and, parenthetically, had just completed doing morning stock inventory of the Fentanyl lollipops. Don't pay no never mind to him!
  6. Kurt Dickson's Avatar
    A few more points...the angle of your feet has nothing to do with why you are swimming circles...just stop pushing off that way.

    Your baby is on crack and helium...the government has mandated all be seen by ERs but has not funded this law in the like 25 plus years since it was enacted which I think would include a few democratic majorities and administrations. No other "right" we have obligates another, say me for instance, to perform a service and not get payed for it and have the opportunity to get sued for it as well. The affordable act mandates all have insurance or pay a fine. Good luck enforcing that.

    Since you love Santorum so much...here is a good one...[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js3BYcHmBhE"]"Rick Santorum" — A BLR Soundbite - YouTube[/nomedia]
  7. jaadams1's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt Dickson
    i think you've lost it...
    Sorry that I'm getting to this late, but I 100% agree with Kurt's first comment, even before reading any of the other 16 or so comments below #1.
  8. Jazz Hands's Avatar
    Here's another one, with Thorpe and VDH: [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaN-_jeeaXs"]100 Freestyle Athens 2004 - YouTube[/nomedia]
  9. Jazz Hands's Avatar
    That's a video for people who don't know how to do a flip turn at all. The guy isn't trying to go fast, so he has a really lazy technique.

    Watch some world and Olympic finals in the 100m free. They usually show the turn underwater. What is the body orientation of these guys when they hit the wall?

    [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmteBFhsvYw"]Men's FINAL 100m Freestyle Shanghai 2011 MAGNUSSEN James 100m Nage Libre Hommes - YouTube[/nomedia]
  10. jim thornton's Avatar
    One more: Natalie C.

    She also does the 12 o'clock high push off, but she begins her SDK on her side, swiveling to freestyle position in the process.

    Pretty impressive, I must say.

    [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyw4ftnyZ18"]Natalie Coughlin Swim Tip #5: Flip Turn - YouTube[/nomedia]
  11. jim thornton's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Jazz Hands
    Well, when you put it that way, I agree. Fix it. Don't circle swim. You need to practice some 500 pace swims with the lane all to yourself. Follow the black line and come over the top on your turns.
    Jazz, I just took your suggestion and checked out some flip turns on YouTube.

    The first one didn't have sound, but your could see that he was planting his feet pretty much in backstroke position, i.e., toes up.

    The second one, made by LiveStrong, is clearly this way. A snapshot from the LiveStrong movie:



    What it looks like to my eye is this:

    1. Sommersault straight over
    2. Plant feet (actually, balls of feet) in backstroke position
    3. Push off on your back
    4. While gliding but before the first SDK, twist over to normal freestyle body position


    Only then, when you are pretty much back to freestyle (as opposed to backstroke) body posture, do you take a few SDKs and prepare for the breakout.

    Here's the Livestrong video:

    [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EL3v1saCQw&feature=fvwp&NR=1"]How to Do a Flip Turn - YouTube[/nomedia]

    Here's the other video that doesn't have sound (but where the guy's feet might be just a smidgen off the 12 o'clock high backstroke pushoff position, but certainly nowhere near 45 degrees:

    [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtP8xgzm6do"]Freestyle Flip Turn Technique by www.swimaffect.com - YouTube[/nomedia]
  12. Jazz Hands's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by jim thornton
    Thanks, but perhaps the foot angle is less important than the big picture.

    What I was told was that my legs were swinging over at roughly a 45 degree angle, setting me up for a push off that was less than straight back towards the opposite wall.

    I obviously didn't see these turns myself, but the gist of the advice was that I was using a circle swimming flip turn--good to avoid crashing into the swimmer following me during practice, but not so good when I am swimming races in the non-Euclidian fashion. One fellow went so far as to estimate that my 500 free was probably closer to a 510 free given the oval-like pattern I traced between the lap lines.

    I think the idea was that if my feet went directly over my head, and I landed with them upside down on the wall, I could push off straight and save myself some distance by eliminating the circle swimming.

    I will check out some YouTube flip turn videos!
    Well, when you put it that way, I agree. Fix it. Don't circle swim. You need to practice some 500 pace swims with the lane all to yourself. Follow the black line and come over the top on your turns.
  13. jim thornton's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by kuztoo
    for a guy with one of the top 5 times in our age group in the 1000 yd freestyle (39 flips) , your turns are not affecting your times! Why worry?
    John, please check previous answer. I do tend to circle swim during both practices and meets, and problem no doubt exacerbated by my tendency to swim with my eyes closed. I was hoping a small change in the flip turn orientation might eliminate some of this, cutting down by a few yards how much I actually traverse for each 100 I travel!
  14. jim thornton's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Jazz Hands
    There's a lot of underwater video of elite flip turns on YouTube. Usually about 45 degrees between horizontal and backstroke-vertical. I have never even thought about my foot angle on a flip turn, though. I just try to get over the top fast and push off with a lot of power.
    Thanks, but perhaps the foot angle is less important than the big picture.

    What I was told was that my legs were swinging over at roughly a 45 degree angle, setting me up for a push off that was less than straight back towards the opposite wall.

    I obviously didn't see these turns myself, but the gist of the advice was that I was using a circle swimming flip turn--good to avoid crashing into the swimmer following me during practice, but not so good when I am swimming races in the non-Euclidian fashion. One fellow went so far as to estimate that my 500 free was probably closer to a 510 free given the oval-like pattern I traced between the lap lines.

    I think the idea was that if my feet went directly over my head, and I landed with them upside down on the wall, I could push off straight and save myself some distance by eliminating the circle swimming.

    I will check out some YouTube flip turn videos!
  15. jim thornton's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Water Rat
    once again, i follow maybe 50% of your vlog. I can answer one question though. feet at 45 degree angle.
    Mark, let me know which part you had trouble with and I will try my best to supply a remedial tutorial!

    Hey, are you back from Mexico?

    I am going to Nationals and will do my best to help you develop the kind of mentality that will unleash your inner potential!

    You simply need to put yourself into my capable but unconventional hands, like Brian Wilson did with that California shrink-charlatan or that Russian davatchka did with Rasputin.
  16. kuztoo's Avatar
    for a guy with one of the top 5 times in our age group in the 1000 yd freestyle (39 flips) , your turns are not affecting your times! Why worry?
  17. Jazz Hands's Avatar
    There's a lot of underwater video of elite flip turns on YouTube. Usually about 45 degrees between horizontal and backstroke-vertical. I have never even thought about my foot angle on a flip turn, though. I just try to get over the top fast and push off with a lot of power.
  18. Water Rat's Avatar
    once again, i follow maybe 50% of your vlog. I can answer one question though. feet at 45 degree angle.
  19. jim thornton's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by swimshark
    Jim, I have a site for you. I bet they would accept you immediately once they find your love for plastic horses.http://bronies.memebase.com/
    And some say I have lost it! These Brony people are out of control!

    P.S. What is a Brony? I get that the "ony" is the back half of "pony" but what is the Br part?
  20. jim thornton's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by pwb
    You just realized that now?
    Patrick, what is the orientation of your feet as you push off the wall from a flip turn? Toes up? Toes down? Or toes at some kind of angle?
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